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No wonder we think our politicians are boring, Bedstor  Can you think of any political scandal worthy of the name here, since Profumo? These American guys have real style! Who was that MP bloke recently who bought a house,put his son's name on the title, rented it back from his son and claimed the rent as an MP's expenses? That's about as scandalous as we get over here and it turned out to be technically permitted, as the rules then were, so nothing was done  Maybe the answer lies in democracy.  After all,we don't elect any mayors (mayor of London excepted) or any judges or magistrates and no public official is elected. We don't even elect our national leader sometimes: neither the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, nor David Cameron, leader of the Opposition, was elected directly by us.In the unlikely event of the Liberal Democrats winning, their leader won't have been directly elected either (Nick Clegg isn't it? It's easy to lose track as they change them every month)
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| Posts: 8126 | Location: Newmarket, UK/ Antibes, S.France | Registered: 07-14-02 |    |
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Yes...a real upstanding guy to represent the people....but hey....they reelected him even though he had the whole mayor's mansion house party complete with strippers and hookers....plus a slew of other scandels hanging over him...He still has a lot of defenders....most of his naysayers are suburbanites who have no vote in the city anyway...Personally I would like to see him get what he deserves.
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IMHO, almost all politicians (I said ALMOST) are morally corrupt be it drugs, use of power, embezzeling creatively, whatever.
It is the most glib and facile persons who attain office, NOT the most moral and upstanding.
And aren't liars often the most glib?
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true sher...I have a feelong a lot of them go into politics with good intentions...but the power goes to thier heads...Mayor Kilpatrick is just so...I don't know...you'd have to watch him on TV....he just has that look on his face like he knows he is above it all and knows he won't get kicked out of office...he just seems to not care..he is a pompus ass...no remorse.
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John Edwards is only a beginner!Though he did take up something of Sher's and Kitty's point. His 'apology' referred to getting to a position where he thought he could do anything.Hmm.He also talked of his own narcissism. Pity that his own apology sounded narcissistic. What is the mayor saying? (Nothing, if his lawyer is any good  ) Keep it coming. Either we haven't got proper scandals to read about or nobody is exposing them (could be: one Prime Minister, John Major, successfuly concealed an affair with a member of his own cabinet until years after he and she had left office and she told the story in her memoirs) or, possibly, what are scandals there are not always not thought scandalous here (UK: France doesn't care. Imagine electing a President, Sarkozy, who dumps his wife for a newer model, whom he's been flaunting, as soon as he's in, or having one who had an illegitimate daughter, housed, apparently, at state expense). (Your elections are lot more fun than ours, too. I must book a trip to America for the week of November 4th, just to witness the denouement  The flights just before that date are already top price, so I can't be alone in that thought  )
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| Posts: 8126 | Location: Newmarket, UK/ Antibes, S.France | Registered: 07-14-02 |    |
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He was sentenced to jail today, must resign immediately, will lose his law lisence...so he at least got some punishment
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Fine looks Ok @$1 million but 5 months Jail! Also note he has to report to Jail in October! Full details here...... Will he be doing a "Paris Hilton" and be out in a few days/weeks Daft way to run a system Like Landing on the "Go to Jail" square and letting you have 10 circuits of the board and if you throw a Double you get out of Jail free? The rich mans trump card
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| Posts: 13169 | Location: 6 miles west of Wigan UK | Registered: 06-05-02 |    |
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Well, Bedstor, 4 months to be served is certainly very lenient by our standards. When Lord Archer, an important politician here, committed perjury by having false diaries produced to 'prove' an alibi that he could not have been having sex with a prostitute in London, he was sentenced to 4 years.The benefit to him had been that he preserved his reputation and had been able to win a defamation action against a national newspaper that published the story.
What this man did seems far worse.
When Jonathan Aitken,another prominent politician, once a cabinet minister, sued a newspaper for claiming he'd stayed in the Ritz Hotel and the bill had been paid by someone promoting an arms deal with Saudi Arabia,the case collapsed when the newspaper produced travel documents and some Ritz hotel bills which showed his case was false. He was sentenced to 18 months for perjury.That seems far less serious than what this man did.
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| Posts: 8126 | Location: Newmarket, UK/ Antibes, S.France | Registered: 07-14-02 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by FredPuli: (I must book a trip to America for the week of November 4th, just to witness the denouement  The flights just before that date are already top price, so I can't be alone in that thought  )
Well, I just booked anyway for the week up to November 5th .I'll be in New York, N.Y. ( Not that the election is my reason for going .I really want to see Hallowe'en: we don't celebrate it here.Is there any difference between Hallowe'en and election night? Both involve ghoulish individuals and someone ends up having nightmares) As a testament to their interest in politics and world affairs,I'm paying for my daughter and a group of her friends to go over for the same week........to Las Vegas. They assure me that Nevada is the State to be in, because of its interesting demographic and psephology, at election time.
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| Posts: 8126 | Location: Newmarket, UK/ Antibes, S.France | Registered: 07-14-02 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by kittypal: Fred..I have never even thought about Vegas at election time...I bet it is a great time to be there....bet (get it?) lol
Sure is! They'll all be over 21 ( by a day or two in my daughter's case).You never know, they might earn/win some money (but I'm having their luggage checked for any poles, in case it involves dancing  )
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| Posts: 8126 | Location: Newmarket, UK/ Antibes, S.France | Registered: 07-14-02 |    |
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