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In August I renewed my driver's license & registered to vote (having relocated from another US state last year) but never got a confirmation of voter registration. This week I emailed the county auditor, who confirmed my registration and said they have me set up to vote by mail, and I will receive my ballot around October 20th. I never requested vote-by-mail. Is this the new default?! Now I have to trust the poll workers AND the US Postal Service? Eek
 
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I'd vote in person if I were you. One of the dirty tricks rolled out this year is sending ballots to people to vote early, but giving a false address, wrong precinct, etc. I just posted about it last week. I'll try to find the link and add it to this post.
 
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I don't recall hearing about this before, but apparently, it is wide-spread.

Below from OpEd News

Iowa.

Fraudulent Absentee Ballot Requests in Iowa? by mshakir1 Fri Sep 12, 2008 (blog, not confirmed independently)

Several days ago, I recieved an interesting piece of mail from John McCain 2008. It was a vote-by-mail application, which I thought was curious because I have never registered as a Republican or donated money to his campaign...After opening the application placard, I noticed that the application was asking for the usual info (name, address, date of birth, etc.), but was unusual was what else it was asking for.
At the bottom of the application, there were 3 check boxes that could be filled out, any one of which could serve to prove one's identity. One of the check boxes was for an OHIO driver's license number. This was curious for me, because as you have probably guessed by now, I live in IOWA. Then I looked at the back of the application card, and the mailing address was for the Director of the board of elections in Columbus, OHIO.

Michigan.

Rove tricks? McCain absentee ballots raise questions By Diane Sweet 9/13/08 I received my absentee ballot from John McCain just last week (see photo of the mailer) and although I called to verify that unsolicited ballots were legal, I’d never looked at an absentee ballot before in my life, so I had no idea of the problems being caused across the country by McCain’s absentee ballot forms....

Minnesota.

John McCain’s Literature Bundled With Absentee Ballot Request Forms September 14th, 2008
...A friend showed me one that his step-daughter received in Minneapolis from an Arlington, Virginia address containing a Colorado absentee ballot request form. The addressee wasn’t ever registered to vote in Colorado and only lived there briefly to work a seasonal job. It didn’t apply to her whatsoever and she was not clear why she received it.

Missouri and Nationally.

McCain Campaign Accused Of Mailing Incorrect Absentee Ballots To Democratic Voters Written By Rick Ellis, Sunday, September 14th, 2008
More than a million registered voters in at least a dozen states have received unsolicited absentee ballots from the McCain campaign. The problem? Many of them seem to have wrong info on them, which would in many cases lead to the ballots being thrown out or disallowed by local election officials.
...Similiar ballots have reportedly been sent to registered voters in a number of states. In Wisconsin, Minnesota, Florida, Pennsylvania, Missouri, and Iowa the ballots seem to target primarily registered Democrats or voters otherwise identified as possible Obama voters. In many cases, the ballots appear to have the address of the incorrect election office, and often an office in the wrong state.

Sending the absentee ballot to the wrong election office would almost certainly ensure it wouldn't be counted. And in most case, the voter attempting to cast the ballot would never learn of the problem in time to vote at their local precinct.
...In the battleground state of Missouri, the problem is even more complex. The McCain campaign has admitted it has sent out the ballots to voters of both parties.

...But Missouri has a strict set of guidelines on who can vote absentee. And convenience is not a valid reason. That leads to a scenerio where absentee votes could be successfully challenged by Republicans who suspect that a vote was cast by someone who did not fit the state's mandated guidelines.
On Friday, Ryan Hobart, the Spokesperson for the Missouri Secretary of State's office issued the following statement:

"Voters need to read the fine print on mailers like this because there are specific requirements for absentee voting in Missouri."
"Currently, to vote absentee, voters are required to have an excuse, like being out of town on Election Day. If they falsely make such a claim, they could be prosecuted with a felony and lose their right to vote."
...Voters in Michigan, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada and several other states have reported receiving automated phone calls from the McCain Campaign, asking for permission to send an absentee ballot. Several voters in Colorado have complained they were then sent ballots with the return address of an Ohio Election Board, and similiar reports from other states have complained the ballot had the incorrect return address or some other mistake which would disallow the ballot.
North Carolina.

McCain Confusing NC Republican Voters by Greg Flynn. Thu Sep 11, 2008 (Flynn is in Wake County NC, Pictures of mailers at link)

The Campaign of John McCain has begun sending out misleading information to North Carolina voters about absentee voting. ......The critically missing piece information is the date of birth...
(Note - NC Verified Voting has contacted the NC State Board of Elections to find out what will happen to these requests that are incomplete.)
**Update The North Carolina State Board of Elections advised by email today that the ballot request mailer in North Carolina would be accepted in most cases by County Boards of Elections.

Ohio.

Ballot snafu endangers votes Sept 9, 2008. ...In Ohio, the McCain campaign printed and sent out about a million of these. The campaign made a mistake: the form included an unnecessary located the question asking if the voter was eligible to vote at the top of the form where it was missed by many voters. If the voter failed to check the box by the question, he or she is stating that he or she is not eligible and the application has to be rejected by law.

Oregon

My McCain Absentee Ballots by weazley (a DKos blog) Fri Sep 05, 2008
...I found it funny they were including my "Vote-by-Mail" application when all Oregon elections are done by mail. Then I looked closer at the instructions: "Request your absentee ballot in 3 simple steps" and the address on the two "Absentee Ballot Request" Cards: "Director of Elections, 420 Holmes St, Bellefonte, PA 16823".
It appears John McCain would like me to register to vote in Pennsylvania, presumably knowing (they had to get my current address somehow) that I've registered and voted 3 or 4 times since I last lived in Pennsylvania (2002-ish) in two different states (Washington and Oregon) at four different addresses.
...I'm not up on the logistics or checks involved in dual voter registrations, but it seems like asking a registered Oregon voter to request an absentee ballot from Pennsylvania might be barking up that tree.

Pennsylvania.

Election fliers confuse some BY DAVID SINGLETON STAFF WRITER Sunday, September 14, 2008
...Some county residents recently received a mailer from Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain with a pair of absentee ballot applications already addressed to Ms. Young’s office attached. The flier includes the appeal, “Vote early by mail — it’s as easy as 1-2-3.”


“Well, it’s not (that easy) everywhere — 1-2-3 is different from state to state,” Ms. Young said. “People are calling and asking, ‘Is this OK?’ ”

Although many other states have moved to give voters the right to cast their ballots in advance of Election Day, either in person or by mail, there is no provision for it under Pennsylvania law.
...An absentee ballot cast under improper circumstances — by someone who just didn’t want to be bothered to leave the house, for instance — could be subject to challenge and disqualification, she said.


Virginia:

Be careful if you receive unrequested absentee ballot application WDBJ7 September 10, 2008
"Why is a Republican, Democrat, anybody sending out an unsolicited request?" wonders Murdock.
City of Salem registrar Dana Oliver say this type of mailer is not illegal since campaigns do have access to voters' information. Martha Brissette, a representative with the State Board of Elections, agrees. However, the application does raise a red flag for both officials because it doesn't include instructions.
Election officials say the instruction page is critical to making sure voters fill out the application correctly so they won't be denied. If they are, the voter would have to fill out a new application, cutting it close to the absentee deadline.
Still, Murdock wonders why she was the only person in her neighborhood to receive an absentee application.
"I don't know why the Republican party feels I need an absentee ballot and why they'd send me something that would urge me to vote absentee," she says. "It seems like it's opening the door for problems in the long run."

Wisconsin:

McCain's mailer creates controversy By MARK PITSCH 608-252-6145 FRI., SEP 12, 2008 mpitsch@madison.com
The state elections agency is investigating complaints about a massive campaign mailing Republican Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign has directed toward Wisconsin Democrats and other voters.
... in some cases, the incorrect clerk's address is printed on the application, leading some Democrats to wonder if the Arizona senator's campaign is deliberately trying to get them to apply for absentee ballots in places where they aren't eligible to vote.
"They're trying to knock me off the rolls," said Democrat Beverly Jambois, of Middleton. "I can't tell you how upsetting it is to me. This is how you win elections? By disenfranchising other voters?"
Her household received the flier this week addressed to her husband, Robert, a lawyer for the state Department of Transportation. The couple are registered to vote in Middleton, but the absentee ballot application was addressed to the city clerk's office in Madison....
A Wisconsin paper calls upon McCain campaign to set things right:
McCain camp must resolve mailing fiasco The Capital Times. An editorial — 9/15/2008

When it comes to the right to vote, it is not enough after a dramatically inappropriate move to say, "Oops."

The campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain has dispatched a mass mailing to Wisconsin voters -- including many Democrats and liberals who are not likely to be McCain backers -- that encourages eligible voters to send their applications for absentee ballots to clerks in communities where they do not reside.

Following the instructions of the McCain mailing could lead voters to run afoul of election rules and regulations -- and that might lead to the disqualification or even the prosecution of an innocent citizen for supposed wrongdoing.
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Googling Caging + Ballot produced a great many hits. This is apparently a serious problem, and the saddest thing is that, even though the people doing it have been caught, there seems to be no punishment. To make matters worse, the trick will fool some people, and they will have lost their right to vote for the candidate they wanted to support.
 
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DG, in developing your lengthy list, could you find nothing about Democrats? Or are they clean as a whistle?
 
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DG, in developing your lengthy list, could you find nothing about Democrats? Or are they clean as a whistle?


Of course, silly. That's how you can tell them apart! Wink
 
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Of course, silly. That's how you can tell them apart! Wink


OK, Mr. Smartypants, I am going to turn in both of my absentee ballots today!
 
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Meanwhile, Obama should clearly win the homeless vote in Ohio:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/01/homeless-ohioans-f...gistering-in-droves/
 
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What's Malkin's objection? That the homeless get a vote? That they have a funny way of speaking? ("Dat’s cool’…If day say ’sign the ballot,’ just give ‘em and do exactly what they want you to do.’" - Malkin must have copied the patois from some 1950's pulp crime novel, but she's not very good at it.)

Malkin does say that the process is "fraud-riddled" - but she offers no support for the assertion.

Was campaigning against voter fraud a Republican ploy?

In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud
 
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I think the problem has to do with same day registrations, NNN. I don't know all of the particulars in how fraud in committed that way. The Ohio court ruled in favor of the strategy this week.
 
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Fuse, I posted from the first article I read about the subject. Feel free to Google "caging" and report of all the incidents in which Democrats are guilty of the practice.
 
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"OK, Mr. Smartypants, I am going to turn in both of my absentee ballots today!"

One for North Carolina and one for Pennsylvania? Don't forget the one for Ohio!
 
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I'd vote in person if I were you. One of the dirty tricks rolled out this year is sending ballots to people to vote early, but giving a false address, wrong precinct, etc. I just posted about it last week. I'll try to find the link and add it to this post.


So, is that what the video at Michelle Malkin's site is concerned with?

I don't normally get heavily involved in the voter fraud discussions. It is of more interest to Illinois residents Big Grin

Here is one anti-DNC site's list of articles on the subject (some, at least, are not up to date). I don't know if they are valid or not. Here is another list; I seem to recall the tire slashing incident.

I think you will get substantial returns if you google acorn voter fraud. PDF of one ACORN settlement agreement.

Voting is one of our fundamental rights and responsibilities in a democracy, and any attempt by either party to distort the process should be vigorously prosecuted.
 
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I remember the tire slashing incident, but not too well. It was mentioned in a thread here somewhere. I'm not sure if that was the same incident that was done by the son of some Democratic local big shot.

I don't know if all the cheating balances out or not. In Illinois, we feel that death does not remove rights of citizenship, and thus allow dead people to vote. In Florida, they don't allow living registered voters to vote. In Ohio, they let imaginary people vote. It is a puzzlement.
 
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'Another study, by the group U.S. PIRG, released last week, also looked at the issue of voter purging and discovered that 19 states are ignoring a federal law banning systematic purges within 90 days of a federal election. The 19 states include battleground states of Colorado, Ohio and Nevada.

As a solution, the Brennan Center recommends that in the future the government implement a nationwide universal voter-registration system.

Waldman said: "when you register once, you stay registered. The government keeps the list. You can prevent fraud. You can prevent people who aren't eligible from voting. But everybody who's eligible gets to vote."

Doing something like this could add up to 50 million more people to the voter rolls every year.

He said: "Every eligible citizen should know that on Election Day they can show up to vote, without worrying whether their name's on the list."'
Red Flag On Purging Voter Rolls

Why not a national system?

The Canadian Model
 
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Why is it not OK to have election observers at the voting center in Summit, OH?

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Hey, I found it! On the bottom of my unorganized stack of mail is my absentee ballot request from the McCain Campaign!

It is, essentially, a campaign flyer with my name and address on the front and a pre-addressed blank postcard to send to my local Board of Elections. There are instructions for filling out the postcard: "Please accept this as my request for a ballot for the 2008 general election", plus your name, address, and signature.

I am ticked off: he didn't send me a stamp.

The Mrs. and I, by the way, decided not to do absentee ballots. We like to make a trip to the polls to vote together (although she makes numerous voting errors Big Grin) and will go to an early voting location later this month.
 
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Ohio secretary of state must verify registrations

If I understood one news report last night correctly, then this may be tough. Apparently a number of the new registrations made by ACORN bypassed the verification system and are in the state's computer. I do not know if other registrations also bypassed the system.

I saw one report that some 666,000 new voters have been registered in Ohio this year...a number dogspit would enjoy, and perhaps appropriate as an Ohio election commentary.
 
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Jennifer Brunner has apparently been sitting on 200,000 voter registrations that haven't been turned over to local boards of election for verification.

There isn't much time left to act on these registrations. It would be a shame if proper registrants are unable to vote, or if improper registrants do vote. These should have been turned over already.
 
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