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I don't have even an inkling of that "lesser of two evils" feeling about Obama. I am sincerely excited to see what he can do. I will have that feeling if Hillary gets the nomination and I might not even vote because I despise the way she operates (but also can't vote for McCain). The office of President should have some dignity and should not be fought for with low blows or undermining with half truths. I'm completely embarrassed for her that she's used Bill Clinton to lie and hit below the belt - using his almost cult-like popularity for her benefit... I loved George Will's quote "The man is physically incapable of telling the truth." Hillary and Bill certainly are great politicians but they are appalling people. That's what people in Illinois are thinking... not sure what New York is thinking because this whole experience argument seems ridiculous to me - she was FIRST LADY - not a nationally elected official and she was senator for 2 more years than Obama... this is her WHOLE campaign... experience? Huh? I even heard her say "Senator Obama has never run in a National election"... well Hillary, neither have you! I know several people that deal with Barrack Obama and many people that have met him. My friend's mother spent time with him because she is a special ed teacher in Illinois for the past 30 years. He didn't give her a line of baloney to get her vote and make her feel important. He sat down and listened to what she had to say and they had a REAL and intelligent discussion. People around here are highly enthused for him and for what he can do, but more enthusiastic that they can finally have some confidence in someone who is thoughtful and very ethical in charge of this country. I have said from the beginning of this race that Barrack will rise and Hillary will stay level because the more people get to know him, the more they won't want to wait 8 years to elect him President. The video that Second City put out on McCain is pretty funny... those of you that haven't seen it might want to find it on YouTube. It contains his quotes by McCain "Remember that old Beach Boys song Bomb-I-Ran?... Bomb Bomb Bomb...Bomb Bomb Iran...(chuckles)"  And then another great one "The average American doesn't care if we are in Iraq for the next 50, 100 or 1000 years" Ends with a joke slogan - "John McCain for President, Like Hope, but different." "Good luck with that in November" There's no doubt to me that McCain is the best Republican to run, but I'm so finished with their crap. Time to rebuild. So anyway, probably everyone knows I support Obama. Hope people join the bandwagon and get behind him because he could be great... the others will be just as disappointing as the past 20 years of leaders have been. Obama has promise and some hope of being great. And based on what's happening inside this country and around the world, we need a great leader about now. 'Nuff said from the Chicagoan. |
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Until the Democrats get their race resolved, I consider it 3 evils.
For someone who usually votes Republican, this is turning into a tough one. I do know this much. I am not voting for John McCain come November. During his years as a U.S. Senator he took pride in being a "maverick", rubbing it into the face of the more conservative oriented of the Republican faithful on different issues. And now he's about to get nominated for President he's out there begging for our vote.
As for Hillary, forget it. We had enough of the Clinton Era. She done tried pushing socialized health care on us once. We don't need her trying to ram-rod it through again.
Barack Obama...While I find myself in disagreement with him on several issues, I will give him credit for being honest about his positions. To the point that if he does indeed win the Democrat nomination, I may consider voting for him.
If not him, then a 3rd party candidate. While some tell me voting 3rd party is "throwing away your vote", because a 3rd party candidate doesn't stand a chance. I totally disagree. My response is if I am voting for someone I totally dislike, such as McCain or Hillary, then I certainly am throwing away my vote.
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Exactly why I think the DNC would be insane to give Hillary the nod. Obama can capture the middle whereas that middle right can't stand anything Clinton.
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quote: Until the Democrats get their race resolved...
It seems that it's the Republicans who have a problem they need to resolve - they're going to nominate McCain, for whom a significant minority(?) within his own party won't vote. By comparison, the Democrats are merely having an 'interesting' primary. |
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quote: Originally posted by newnickname: quote: Until the Democrats get their race resolved...
It seems that it's the Republicans who have a problem they need to resolve - they're going to nominate McCain, for whom a significant minority(?) within his own party won't vote. By comparison, the Democrats are merely having an 'interesting' primary.
Personally I think the Republican heiarchy has already thrown in the towel on this election by putting their support behind McCain. Because it's his turn. let him have it, he loses the election to Hillary or Obama, he rides off into the sunset. He had his shot at the Presidency. This election reminds me of when Bob Dole ran against Bill Clinton on his re-election bid. Dole never had a chance, the Republican Party knew it, but they didn't think Clinton could be beat. So it was Dole's turn any way. He lost and rode off into the sunset to make commercials for cheese & VISA check cards. |
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quote: Originally posted by dance girl: quote: So it was Dole's turn any way. He lost and rode off into the sunset to make commercials for cheese & VISA check cards.
Didn't he make Viagra successful too? Or was it the other way round? 
Actually I think Viagra was a successful product without his help. But your right, he did plug Viagra. I do recall a reporter had asked his wife Elizabeth, what she thought of Viagra. She smiled and said, "I love it!!!" |
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"I think many Democrats would walk a mile in sub zero weather to vote for Obama." I only walked a half mile in the subzero weather.  |
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quote: Originally posted by aminator2002: I don't have even an inkling of that "lesser of two evils" feeling about Obama. I am sincerely excited to see what he can do. I will have that feeling if Hillary gets the nomination and I might not even vote because I despise the way she operates (but also can't vote for McCain). The office of President should have some dignity and should not be fought for with low blows or undermining with half truths. I'm completely embarrassed for her that she's used Bill Clinton to lie and hit below the belt - using his almost cult-like popularity for her benefit... I loved George Will's quote "The man is physically incapable of telling the truth." Hillary and Bill certainly are great politicians but they are appalling people. That's what people in Illinois are thinking... not sure what New York is thinking because this whole experience argument seems ridiculous to me - she was FIRST LADY - not a nationally elected official and she was senator for 2 more years than Obama... this is her WHOLE campaign... experience? Huh? I even heard her say "Senator Obama has never run in a National election"... well Hillary, neither have you! I know several people that deal with Barrack Obama and many people that have met him. My friend's mother spent time with him because she is a special ed teacher in Illinois for the past 30 years. He didn't give her a line of baloney to get her vote and make her feel important. He sat down and listened to what she had to say and they had a REAL and intelligent discussion. People around here are highly enthused for him and for what he can do, but more enthusiastic that they can finally have some confidence in someone who is thoughtful and very ethical in charge of this country. I have said from the beginning of this race that Barrack will rise and Hillary will stay level because the more people get to know him, the more they won't want to wait 8 years to elect him President. The video that Second City put out on McCain is pretty funny... those of you that haven't seen it might want to find it on YouTube. It contains his quotes by McCain "Remember that old Beach Boys song Bomb-I-Ran?... Bomb Bomb Bomb...Bomb Bomb Iran...(chuckles)" And then another great one "The average American doesn't care if we are in Iraq for the next 50, 100 or 1000 years" Ends with a joke slogan - "John McCain for President, Like Hope, but different." "Good luck with that in November" There's no doubt to me that McCain is the best Republican to run, but I'm so finished with their crap. Time to rebuild. So anyway, probably everyone knows I support Obama. Hope people join the bandwagon and get behind him because he could be great... the others will be just as disappointing as the past 20 years of leaders have been. Obama has promise and some hope of being great. And based on what's happening inside this country and around the world, we need a great leader about now. 'Nuff said from the Chicagoan.
Ami, you took the words right out of my mouth! I am very pleased with the way things are going so far, but as you said, if Hillary gets the nomination, I may not even vote myself. |
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quote: Originally posted by aminator2002:
Exactly why I think the DNC would be insane to give Hillary the nod. Obama can capture the middle whereas that middle right can't stand anything Clinton.
The recent polling results from Rasmussen have Obama beating McCain, but McCain slightly edging out Clinton, in head-to-head races. McCain seems to be gaining a little strength vs. Clinton, but Obama is whizzing past everyone right now. If Hillary is interested in a long-term political career, I think she should seriously consider a private meeting with Obama right now, before the Texas primary, and strike a deal to become his Vice President. The DNC should be happy with such a deal. They can focus all of their energy on beating McCain, not on beating up each other. |
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