An interesting (worrying?) video about the Diebold voting system

Diebold Machines

Yes! Perhaps the Clinton machine was able to pull this off in New Hampshire. Maybe now we know how things got turned around. Obama was robbed, the Clinton's stole the election.


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Scotty, do you happen to know if Hillary got more votes than registered voters in any one precinct, like bush did in Ohio? That would be a tip-off that voter fraud took place, in my opinion.

You are not happy when the shoe is on the other foot eh, DG? I have to say that your response is exactly as predicted on a military site.
"Of course they will say that only Republicans commit voter fraud."

I have no idea iif there was fraud or not in New Hampshire. If you have any real evidence, do your duty as a citizen and let the proper people know. In the bush case that I cited, it was reported in several newspapers.

We really are somewhat alike, Scotty, I think voter fraud is a crime whether it is committed by a Republican or a Democrat. From your many posts in AP, I know that you agree with half of what I said.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DorianGreyed:
I have no idea iif there was fraud or not in New Hampshire.

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Hi dg:

I have no idea if there was any voter fraud in New Hampshire.

I do know that all of the talking heads and pollsters were baffled by the fact that the the polls were "right on "in the Republican race ...but weren't even close to being right in the Democrat race.

Why do you think they could be so right for one party but so wrong on the other???

I still think the secret ballot made the difference.The voters told the pollsters one thing and then voted differently once inside the voting booth.

hippolips

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I still think the secret ballot made the difference.The voters told the pollsters one thing and then voted differently once inside the voting booth.

If you believe that most of your fellow men/women are liars, and racist to boot, why would you expect them to be prejudiced against rather than in favor of any given candidate? Women favoring other women, for instance? Independents feeling that Obama is safe - might as well give McCain a vote of approval?? Personally, I never feel any obligation to tell pollsters anything at all!

I'm amazed that there is no comment about the fact that the machines are so easily manipulated. Whether Republican or Democrat, you should all be extremely concerned that the problem exists.If you don't, you don't believe in democracy.

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If you believe that most of your fellow men/women are liars, and racist to boot, why would you expect them to be prejudiced against rather than in favor of any given candidate? Women favoring other women, for instance?

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Hi Frank:

I believe a person can be prejudiced or biased FOR or AGAINST a person... or an issue.

For instance ,for every one who might vote FOR Hillary because she's a woman ,there are those who would vote AGAINST Hillary because she's a woman...

And for every one who might vote FOR Obama ,because he's Black there are those who would vote AGAINST Obama , because he's Black.

And for every one who might vote FOR Edwards , because he's White there are those who would vote AGAINST Edwards , because he's White.

And there are those who vote for a candidate because he[or she] is the best qualified...and who wouldn't care what Race,Gender or Color the candidate is.

hippolips

"I'm amazed that there is no comment about the fact that the machines are so easily manipulated."

But there has been a comment about exactly that.

Scotty, do you happen to know if Hillary got more votes than registered voters in any one precinct, like bush did in Ohio? That would be a tip-off that voter fraud took place, in my opinion.

Of course, we are still waiting for Scotty's reply. Seeing how long he is taking to reply, I know it will be a scintillating one.

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Scotty, do you happen to know if Hillary got more votes than registered voters in any one precinct, like bush did in Ohio? That would be a tip-off that voter fraud took place, in my opinion.

Oh! Is that the only criteria for voter fraud?
If you rob a store of ten dollars, is that robbery or do you have to get one thousand or more to commit robbery?

Hi dg:

How about when some of the "talking heads", like Chris Matthews, who show an obvious bias against Hillary,day after day, and then pretend to be neutral and unbiased when doing their daily shows???

It may not be voter fraud but it sure as hell IS bias...and I'm no fan of Hillary!

hippolips

Hi dg:

If you are trying to build a case for possible vote tampering,the Democrats have had four years to propose legislation to prevent the possibility of vote tampering.

It's one thing to bitch about it ...it's quite another to do something concrete to eliminate the possibility of it actually happening.

hippolips

4 years? Hippo, the Democrats have only held Congressional power since January 2007. However, it doesn't matter who is in power, neither side wants to stop all vote tampering, just the vote tampering by the other side. Scotty gives a perfect example of that. HE decries the fact that Hillary won a primary because the pre-election polls had here behind, yet refuses to comment on the fiasco in Ohio, where exit polls had Kerry winning, and, as stated above, one precinct's machines showed bush getting somewhere around 4000 votes, in a precinct in which there were about 500 registered voters.

Scotty, did you ever work at Radio City Music Hall?

You see, DG, I don't see fraud, conspiracy, ghost, etc behind every tree like some here.
I didn't say that I believed that voter fraud occurred in New Hampshire, but was interested in the reactions of liberals when the accusations were on the other foot. As predicted by many, the liberals lived up to what was expected. Backpedaling and spin. The usual.

When the accusations are on the other foot, one is obliged to backpedal, No?

"You see, DG, I don't see fraud, conspiracy, ghost, etc behind every tree like some here."

No, you just see it behind Democratic trees.
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"Maybe now we know how things got turned around. Obama was robbed, the Clinton's stole the election. Wink"

"I didn't say that I believed that voter fraud occurred in New Hampshire, but was interested in the reactions of liberals when the accusations were on the other foot."

Curious. You made statement like that, post a link that has the headline "Major allegations of vote fraud in New Hampshire", but claim to not have made allegations. Why do you have others do your talking for you?

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Curious. You made statement like that, post a link that has the headline "Major allegations of vote fraud in New Hampshire", but claim to not have made allegations. Why do you have others do your talking for you?

Like I said, and please try to understand, I know it is a little hard for you to comprehend at times, but I posted it to see the reactions of you liberals who constantly claim voter fraud and conspiracies. I, like others, wanted to see your reactions now that the ball is in your court, and your response didn't disappoint because it was what we expected.
You see not everyone believes in ghosts behind every bush like some here.

Those democratic trees that you mentioned, are they the ones that expect to be taken care of by the Government? You know like planted on Government land, Government tree surgeon, Government fertilizer, food, etc.?

Oh! By the way I could have picked a number of links that said the same thing, I just picked the first one that I came across.

Scotty, why not save time, and in the future write, "You caught me again in my double standard, and I won't answer your question."

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Scotty, why not save time, and in the future write, "You caught me again in my double standard, and I won't answer your question."

DG, You make me laugh, you have not caught me in anything, much less a double standard. Why can't you just admit that you cannot handle the truth? You see I told you the truth, but you can't accept it.