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Yes both the moon and the sun create tidal forces on earth... Tidal forces vary as the inverse cube of the distances between the masses. The mass of the moon is 7.35 x 1022 kg and its distance is 384,400 km. The mass of the sun is 1.99 x 1030kg and its distance is 149,597,870 km. Therefore moon/sun = (7.35 x 1022/384,4003)/(1.99 x 1030/149,597,8703 = 1.29 x 106/5.94 x 105 = 2.17 which means the moon has more than twice the effect on tides as the sun.
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Bibc14: They don't "cancel" even though the two bodies (sun and moon) are on opposite sides of the earth because of the nature of tidal forces.
When the sun and moon are on opposite sides of the earth, they do indeed pull in opposite directions. But tidal forces arise from the gradient of the gravitational force. That is, tides arise from the fact that the gravitational forces vary across the diameter of the earth because different parts of the earth are at slightly different distances from the center of mass of the moon or the sun.
This produces an axis of symmetry along which the sphere becomes elongated (so-called bulges at the near and far sides). It doesn't matter whether this axis represents stronger-to-weaker or weaker-to-stronger gravitational pull.
So if the axes line up, they reinforce each other and produce greater tides. If they are perpendicular (at half-moon) then the earth is elongated in perpendicular directions, becomes less distorted and consequently has smaller tides.
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