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Originally posted by Doug:
Is there a math fourmula to use some times to figure out when ovulation is the highest besides the 10-14 day thing?

Here's the scoop, Doug. There is no math program because of variations which make the problem of calculating your girl-friend's ovulation day a 'chaotic' one.

That's not to say there isn't some scam artist out there who will sell you a program guaranteed to do the job with total accuracy.

So heres's what you need to do.

1. Take a course (or courses) in biology, if you haven't already done do, and keep doing that until you can conceptualize how hormones regulate body functions (in general).

2. Download and read everything you can find that appears to make sense from the internet on HOW TO BECOME PREGNANT. Those sites give a lot more information about ovulation-detection than do the ones on the 'prevention' sites. Then do the opposite of what they recommend.

3. Figure it out for yourself.

Meantime, the courses will help you keep your mind off your obsession. The obsession with methodology, not with sex. The obsession with sex is normal.

And meantime, use condoms AND a back-up system such as 'pill' or some other good one. By all means do not reproduce at this time in your life. You are way too immature for parenting.

A woman's cycle can vary. Your girlfriend should see a gynecologist before you have sex so that she can ask all these questions and discuss birth control with someone that can provide good advice. At that time she can discuss the timing of her ovulation and how to predict that.

It is my opinion that you are being inappropriate with your requests about letting you get involved in the timing of her cycle. I think you should let her bring this up if she wants to talk to you about it. In the meantime, I suggest you add that she should see a gynecologist to your list and leave it at that.

I think it's nice that you are being so careful, but I think perhaps you are being overly concerned with the details and not really minding the big issues - are you both independent enough of your parents to begin a sexual relationship?

I just really think everyone is being too kind and not telling you the real deal - leave ovulation calendars to your girlfriend and mind your own sperm.

Doug, I strongly advise against the whole idea of you tracking her cycle. This sort of behavior is NOT the stuff of romance and is not likely to alter your pregnancy risk enough to justify making her feel like a science fair project.
You have gotten some excellent advise about birth control, and have clearly done your homework, and it's a wonderful thing that you're being so diligent about the responsibilities involved in becoming sexually active.
BUT (You knew there would be a "but", didn't you?)

If avoiding pregnancy is of such critical importance that it outweighs intimacy, affection, passion and all the other lovely and indefinable aspects of lovemaking, then you should wait until an unexpected pregnancy would not cause the world to crumble at your feet.
There are many activities that do not involve the risk of pregnancy, intercourse is not a "requirement" for a healthy, active, gratifying love life.
If one person has a womb and ovaries and the other has testicles,intercourse always carries some risk of pregnancy. If minimizing that risk by means of the careful and consistant use of two credible methods of contraception is not good enough to put your mind at ease, then don't have intercourse.

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Originally posted by MrsS:
There are many activities that do not involve the risk of pregnancy, intercourse is not a "requirement" for a healthy, active, gratifying love life.
If one person has a womb and ovaries and the other has testicles,intercourse always carries some risk of pregnancy. If minimizing that risk by means of the careful and consistant use of two credible methods of contraception is not good enough to put your mind at ease, then don't have intercourse.

Crikey Shana!
Great advice, but if someone had put it that bluntly to me when I was contemplating sex for the first time, I think I'd have joined a convent

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Originally posted by dance girl: Crikey Shana!
Great advice, but if someone had put it that bluntly to me when I was contemplating sex for the first time, I think I'd have joined a convent

It would seem that bluntness is necessary at times.

I'd find it incredibly romantic if a man offered to abstain from sex until marriage, especially if either of you has had previous partners. "I love you so much, I am willing to wait for you."

Dougy boy, as these women have said abstinence is the way to go, but I ain't no fool. I recomend a rubber, and putting your girl on birth control.
that way you're double protected.

I don't know how old you are or if you're a player or not, but always use protection, and provide the rubbers yourself, because believe me there are some scandalous females out there who will give you a condom with a hole poked through it.
always pack safety while on the playground Doug.

And then there's the one about the faithful Catholic who works in the condom factory....

you got me there babthrower. good show!