Where does the information come from?

Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,
all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons… gluons field ….. etc.) – were assembled in a “single point”.
It means that all information also was assembled in a "single point".
And then there was " big bang " and all information flew to bits
in different sides.
Suppose , that every bits of a "single point", every particle
of a "single point" is the owner of some information.
Then there are two possibilities:
a) every particle has the own information and after 20 billions years
they accidentally united and created everything including a man.
The aim of it is to observe all accidental possibilities.
b) in the beginning every particle has zero information .
Question :" How does zero information further arrive to a
very high informational level ? "
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If you go on way a) - so maybe yes, maybe no
you will pass through a forest of knowledge .
If you go on way b) - you will pass a forest of
theoretical knowledge along a straight road.
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Why I say so?
The visible matter of world is only a small part of all mass in the Universe.
More then 90% of the matter in the Universe is unseen," dark matter ".
Nobody knows what it is and therefore it is possible to say that more
then 90% of information is hiding and unknown to us.
So our aim must be to study "dark particles " or…..
………..
We know, there is no information transfer
without energy transfer. More correct : there is no quant
information transfer without quant energy transfer.
And the electron has the least electric charge.
It means it has some quant of the least information.
What can electron do with this information?
Let us look the Mendeleev / Moseley periodic table.
We can see at first, that electron does, it interacts with proton
and creates atom of hydrogen. This is simplest design,
which was created by electron.
And we can see how this information grows and reaches
high informational level. And the most complex design,
which was created by electron is the Man.
The Man is alive essence. Animals, birds, fish are alive essences.
And an atom? And atom is also alive design.
The free atom of hydrogen can live about 1000 seconds.
And someone a long time ago has already said, that if
to give suffices time to atom of hydrogen, he would turn into Man.
Really, it is not beautiful, is it ?
Maybe it is better not to search about "dark, virtual particles "
but to understand what the electron is,
because even now nobody knows what electron is.
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Was I mistaken? No.
Because according to Pauli Exclusion Principle
only one single electron can be in the atom.
This electron reanimates the atom.
This electron manages the atom.
If the atom contains more than one electron
(for example - two), this atom represents " Siamese twins".
Save us, the Great God, of having such atoms, such children!
Each of us has an Electron, but we do not know it.
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Why does only electron have quant of information?
Maybe does proton also have quant of information?
No. Single proton has no quant of information.
Why?
Because information can be transfered only by
electromagnetic fields. And we don’t have a theory
about protono-magnetic fields.
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Once upon a time, in the beginning, there was
one "single point " accidentally.
Then it has accidentally blown up
Big Bang " has taken place.
It was the reason of accidental creation of some thousands
kinds of elementary particles and their girlfriends - antiparticles.
Then atom of hydrogen was formed accidentally
Then complex atom was formed accidentally.
Then stars were formed accidentally.
Then the Planet the Earth was formed accidentally.
Then the fauna was formed accidentally.
Then the animal kingdom was formed accidentally.
Then the man was created accidentally.
And this man can accidentally think logically.
But of course, unfortunately, not always.
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Many years ago man has accustomed some wild
animals (wolf, horse, cat, bull , etc.)
and has made them domestic ones.
But the man understands badly the four-footed friends.
In 1897 J. J. Thomson discovered new particle - electron.
Gradually man has accustomed electron to work for him.
But the man does not understand what an electron is.
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For my peasant logic at first it is better to understand
the closest thing (for example an electron) and then
to study the far away space and particles
(for example dark, black, virtual …etc particles).
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Best wishes.
http://www.socratus.com

uh, thanks, but I meant all the spam I get daily in my inbox.

uh, thanks, but I meant all the spam I get daily in my inbox.
/ DorianGreyed /
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It is no spam.
Because , there is no information transfer
without energy transfer.
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It may not be spam, but it ain't filet mignon either.

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DorianGreyed

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To DorianGreyed
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Sorry for my bad English.
I cannot understand your sentens.
Please, explain yourself more clearly.
Sorry.

"And the most complex design, which was created by electron is the Man."
Of all the speculations you have quoted or stated in this thread, that one is the wildest.

(Stop it this minute, babthrower! You're only encouraging him!)

Sorry. It was a bad pun.

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Originally posted by babthrower:
"And the most complex design, which was created by electron is the Man."
Of all the speculations you have quoted or stated in this thread, that one is the wildest.

(Stop it this minute, babthrower! You're only encouraging him!)

I'm more concerned that you have started talking o yourself in your posts, Babs.
But then you are always fair in your criticism.

DG, I thought bad puns were a prerequisite of AP membership?

Dancer says "I'm more concerned that you have started talking o yourself in your posts, Babs.
But then you are always fair in your criticism."

Ah, well, advancing years will do that. Now what was I going to do? Oh, yes, check in on A/P and see what those geeks 'n' freeks are up to.

"And the most complex design, which was created by electron is the Man."
Of all the speculations you have quoted or stated in this thread, that one is the wildest.
/ babthrower /
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I agree.
But, that is true.
It needs time to understand this fact.
It needs time to understand this way of evolution.
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"One of the best kept secrets of science is that physicists
have lost their grip on reality."

" I feel that we do not have definite physical concepts at all
if we just apply working mathematical rules;
that's not what the physicist should be satisfied with."
/Dirac /

"I want to know how God created this world.
I am not interested in this or that phenomenon,
in the spectrum of this or that element.
I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details."
/Einstein/

" There is something in us,
where the domination of space and time comes to an end."
/Rabindranath Tagore/

" Everything is perfect in God's Plan - you just need to perceive it ".

We evolved to have enough smarts to make fire, sharpen a rock sufficiently to pierce an animal's hide, build a shelter, lace together some skins into clothes. This was rewarded by natural selection so that we became smart enough to write and thus record, exchange, minutely inspect and analyze ideas.

But natural selection is usually parsimonious. We don't evolve to produce more brain than we need for survival.

In fact, it seems we have evolved just enough brain that our survival is in serious jeopardy -- I would say our species survival is improbable.

We don't need to understand our universe. We do need to understand ourselves.

We don't need anyone's notion of a god. We need a useful notion of good.

We didn't evolve with the hardware necessary to 'understand' more than three dimensions. We do understand that there are certain paradoxes.

These paradoxes show us that we don't understand at least one and most likely many profound facts about our reality.

You can give a caged monkey a copy of a motorcycle manual. He/she might speculate in a very interesting manner as to what its purpose is. But probably the most he/she could do with it is imagine that its mystery is related in some sense to divine will. And we humans would be its idea of the divinity.

Many of the speculations of modern physics are, at the moment, not physics at all, but metaphysics, since they are untestable. It's human nature that we will keep trying. But we shouldn't take ourselves too seriously while we're at it.

Particularly absurd are those statements about the untestable aspects of reality when those statements lead in turn to inferences. We hear people seriously proclaim that ever incident of uncertainty generates a new universe.

What certainly is true is that human ability to understand the physical substrate is severely limited.

We ought to cultivate our gardens instead.

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What certainly is true is that human ability to understand the physical substrate is severely limited.

We ought to cultivate our gardens instead.

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I dont agree.
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What is the first law of Universe ?
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The Physics is first of all Vacuum.
Vacuum is :T=0K.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,
all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons… gluons field ….. etc.) – was assembled in a “single point”.
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the “single point”.
The answer is :
EMPTINESS- NOTHING….!!!
Ok!
But why does everyone speak about EMPTINESS- NOTHING in
common phrases rather than in specific, concrete terms?
I wonder why nobody has written down this EMPTINESS- NOTHING in
the form of a physical formula ? You see, every schoolboy knows that
is possible to express the EMPTINESS- NOTHING condition
by the formula T=0K.
* * *
Once there was a “Big Bang”.
But in what space had the Big Bang taken place
and in what space was the matter of the Big Bang distributed?
Not in T=0K?
It is clear, that there is only EMPTINESS, NOTHING, in T=0K.
Now consider that the Universe, as an absolute frame of reference is
in a condition of T = 2,7K (rests relic radiation of the Big Bang ).
But, the relic radiation is extended and in the future will change and decrease.
What temperature can this radiation reach?
Not T=0K?
Hence, if we go into the past or into the present or into the future,
we can not escape from EMPTINESS- NOTHING T=0K.
Therefore it is necessary to begin to think from T=0K.
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What is the second law of Universe ?

To answer of this question we must ask:
" What geometrical and physical parameters
have the particles in Vacuum T=0K? "
a).
The Classical physics says, that when we reach
the temperature T=0K all moving of particles
stops, and the Energy of this space is equal to zero.
It means that the space T=0K is died one.
Therefore it is impossible something to say about T=0K.
b)
But Quantum physics says that the Energy of this space
is not equal to zero. Quantum physics says that in T=0K
“ virtual” particles exist. Why does nobody recognize the
geometrical and physical parameters of “ virtual” particles?
For example: “ Can they have volume?”
No.
Because according to J. Charles law ( 1787),
when the temperature falls down on 1 degree
the volume decreases on 1/273. And when the
temperature reaches -273 degree the volume
disappears. The particles become flat figures.
From them the most optimal is circle: C/D=pi.
c)
According to SRT quantum of light flies
with speed c = 1. And in this moving it cannot
have volume. It means that quantum of light
has a geometrical form of circle: C/D = 3,14….
d)
A quantum of light is a privileged particle.
Only a light quantum has the absolute speed: c=1.
No other particle can travel with the speed: c = 1.
Other particle can travel only with the speed: s=d/t.
And I was taught at school from the first class:
that the incommensurable quantities cannot be compared.
To connect incommensurable quantities it
is similar to the decision of a problem:
"What will be if the whale will attacks the elephant?"
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If quantum of light flies always only rectilinearly
with speed c=1, it is a mad one.
No.
Quantum of light have two kinds of spins ,
as a result of which the particle attains motion.
1)
Under the action of Planck,s spin (impulse),
which is equal to the unit ( h =1)
a quantum of light flies rectilinearly with speed (c = 1).
The geometrical form of a circle: (C/D = 3,14).
A quantum of light behaves as a particle.
2)
Under the action of Goudsmit-Uhlenbeck's spin ,
( h = h / 2pi) a quantum of light rotates around of its diameter
with the speed more of light quanta : c>1
and is known as electron.
The geometrical form of a circle is transformed into a sphere.
This kind of movement is described by Lorentz's transformations .
In this action the wave properties of light quantum are shown.
The dualism of a particle becomes clear.
The paradox of dualism disappears completely.
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....etc.