The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of Revelation 13 is which people are being discussed. If the wrong people are associated with the prophecies of Revelation 13 its answer can never be found. The people being referred to in Revelation 13 are the Palestinians. Once this is decided three questions have to be answered; why, how and who.
Why do the Palestinian people lack the ability to buy and sell? Due to the Hamas takeover of the Palestinian Government, Western Aid was discontinued.
How will the Palestinian people receive funds in order to buy and sell? Through a program called the Temporary International Mechanism that bypasses the Hamas controlled Palestinian Authority. This program was established on Friday June 16, 2006. This date 6/16/06 represents the day that one man was allowed to administer a program that paid the salaries of his people. This is an amazing coincidence. There are only three days in ten years that end with three sixes; June 6, June 16, and June 26.
Who will provide these salaries to the Palestinians? Salaries will be paid through the office of Mahmoud Abbas.
Also, what group will be prevented from getting money because they did not receive the mark?
Hamas boycotted the Election of Mahmoud Abbas in January 2005; therefore they did not receive the indelible ink mark to their right hands. All salaries are being given to Fatah, the party of Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas will not honor the image of Mahmoud Abbas. The image of Mahmoud Abbas is required by the international community to continue peace talks with Israel. This image is three items that represent Abbas and his Government; the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements with Israel, the renunciation of terror as a means to an end, and a two- state solution based on the 1967 borders prior to the six-day war.
Three items point to the Beast of Revelation 13: his mark, his number and his name. WOEphraim
I got tired after this. Is there any place you have not covered this area? Could you please share if you have made the link yourself or from some other site/source?
The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of Revelation 13 is which people are being discussed.
The answer can be found in John 6:66 KJV and the him spoken of is Revelations 19:13 and the word is as in John 17:17 KJV which says that the word is truth. Further Truth defined is as 1 John 4:8 and then John 1:1 and back again to John 17:17. Precept on precept Truth and love are one and the same. John 14:6 the way, the truth and the life. Whosoever is not with it is against it and under the mark of the beast.
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Originally posted by ephraim: Why is Mahmoud Abbas the Beast of Revelation 13?
The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of Revelation 13 is which people are being discussed.
The people being discussed are not of a particular religion, race, nationality, etc. but are of a particular lack of spiritual development, having attained a lesser mark, in that they have failed to reach the higher mark, which is the mark of the prize of the high calling of God.
Question: The beast of Revelation 13 is associated with various items by which he can be identified. One of these is:
" And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months".
How did Mahmoud Abbas fulfill this prophecy? How would you fit the 42 months time period, as used by John, in the life of Mahmoud Abbas?
Answer: Mahmoud Abbas does not fulfill this 42 month prophecy, Yasser Arafat does. The first beast of Revelation and the little horn was Yasser Arafat. The 42 months were fulfilled in the first three and a half years of the Oslo Accords. This happened between 1993 and 1997. Negotiations were going well and both sides were making progress during this time. Arafat's leadership seemed to be providing results as Israel continued to transfer land and security control back to the Palestinians. In the second half of the seven years that ended in Sept. 2000, the good will began to break down and terrorism stifled the whole process. The second intifada started, shortly after the failure at Camp David, and not much has happened every since.
Naturally, when Yasser Arafat died in November of 2004, he had to be replaced. Mahmoud Abbas became that replacement. He stepped into the position of the first beast simply by being elected Palestinian President. The second beast of Revelation entered the picture when Hamas won the the elections of Jan. 2006. When Hamas won the election, the Government of the Palestinian Authority became the two-horned second beast. These two horns represent two kings within the same Palestinian Authority that do not agree on the image of Mahmoud Abbas. This image of Mahmoud Abbas and his Government are three issues that represent the old Palestinian Authority. These must be implemented to allow a peace process to continue with Israel. Hamas must recognize Israel, abide by old agreements and renounce terrorism. This is the image of Abbas; the second beast of Revelation. If these ideas are not followed, honored or worshipped; those individuals will be killed. This is happening to Hamas daily.
I added the word worshipped here because that is the word used by the King James Bible translators. It also means to honor.
Now combined with the first post, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Abbas is that second beast and he has fulfilled the prophecy of 666 as I have described. Thanks for your question, anonymous.
"The second beast of Revelation entered the picture when Hamas won the the elections of Jan. 2006. When Hamas won the election, the Government of the Palestinian Authority became the two-horned second beast."
By what reasoning? Simply to state that does not make it true. You need to show a logical development, a proof, of why what you say is true.
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Yaasir Arafat or Mahmood Abbas.... are in reality nobody.... and if they are the first and second beast of book of revelation... then thats a huge disappointment. Mahmood Abbas controls nothing, not even Palestine.
The more I read from Bible believers these days... that is from Ken & co, the more I realize, christanity has no feet to stand on and is nothing but a bunch of delusional people, claiming to be guided by holy spirit.
Like i quoted recently:
It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it [the Book of Revelation], and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherencies of our own nightly dreams ...
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to General Alexander Smyth, January 17, 1825
The above is true and a fact.
I once did relate the 11th king of the fourth kingdom in Book of Daniel (chapter 7)to Constantine. There are 2.4 billion people that follow him today. Some tried negating that with Revelation 17. Sad ! I cound debunk Revelation 17 as something did not come true in 10 minutes. Anyone who knows a little bit of history can debunk Revelation 17 in 10 minutes.
Unfortunately christians cant see history but some of them can create loads of delusions and see that as clear proof of the Bible prophecy being fulfilled .
Now Ken lets quote 5 to 10 random verses and relate them to the cross .
1 Corinthians 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
With this thought in mind reread Revelations 17. It will give you a new insight as that scarlet beast is none other than man himself. Ecclesiastes 3:18I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
And that which sits upon that scarlet beast as in Revelations 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
And so here we hear that babbling beast go on and on. For the scarlet seen is none other than his own embarassment at being so wrong.
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