Another Christmas will soon be upon us, and once again, as I have done for the past 20 or so Christmases, I will be counting my dead al colpo della mezzanotte su Natale. I have 5 to count this year. I know some of you will be interested in the details of the encounter (especially Tsaeb, Jusork (are you still around, I don't frequent here very often?), and the inimitable and surprising juanruiz)). I will be sure to post shortly after Christmas and inform you of the results. I have never used the Secret Prayer (that JR revealed to me several years ago) to rid someone of the malocchia, however,the now famous(?) prayer (Calabrian Chant) works beutifully to enhance the results of my 'communication' with those in my family who have departed this earthly life, but whose spirit will never die. I look forward to the night, and I will soon share the results of that one - brief - shining - moment with you.
Buon Natale!
Gerry ****************************************************** 11-22-06, 05:03 AM tsaeb I suppose that I do not have to remind you to do your yearly thing without the presence of those unbelievers in your family. Anyway, I got a chuckle as soon as I saw your thread. Happy Holidays! ****************************************************** 11-22-06, 01:02 PM jusork I'm always here, Ger. I made a post in the religion poll section recently and you can always find me in Music. I'm ready to hear, too. ****************************************************** 12-23-06, 12:48 AM juanruiz Hey, buona fortuna, Gerry. Hope you have a very Merry Christmas too. ****************************************************** 12-24-06, 06:29 PM gerry Thanks, JR. I've waited a year for this special moment. The appointed hour is near. ****************************************************** 12-25-06, 01:13 AM gerry AND so at midnight, I filled the bowl with water, placed a candle in the center, set it on the windowsill, and lit the flame. Now three times I chanted the secret prayer, and in so doing, called the dead to the light of life and death.
As has always been the case, at first, nothing happened. I always question my belief at this point, and tonight was no exception. Was 5 too many to count? Patiently, I waited. Nothing.
After several minutes, I now removed my eyeglasses which were blurring my view of the flame. The reflection of the glasses in the window immediately appeared. I cannot explain it, but it was vividly clear to me that these were the glasses of my grandfather, now deceased 20 years! Excited now, I rotated the glasses slowly, peering at their reflection through the window, amidst the flickering flame, searching for the others. Where were they? And then, at that moment, the lights in the windows of my neighbor's house were shut off...all except five, that is...and now I noticed in the window reflection that my hand, holding my glasses, was cupped over the flame, fingers extended...yes, I counted them, one, two, three, four, five......encircling the eternal flame, which, with a smile, I quickly extinguished.
So once again we were reunited, and now ye knoweth the secret of Christmas Night, if only thou wouldst believe: Life is fragile, uncertain, sometimes beautiful, sometimes tragic...and temporary; but Love..some would say God...is forever. Merry Christmas. ****************************************************** 12-25-06, 11:34 PM jusork Wow. So you didn't notice your hand moved? Did a ghost move it? And what's the significance of five again? ****************************************************** 12-26-06, 11:13 AM gerry
quote: Originally posted by jusork: Wow. So you didn't notice your hand moved? Did a ghost move it? And what's the significance of five again?
Hi, jusork (is it Justin?), Merry Christmas!
My grandfather passed on the secret to me 50 years ago. He said, " ...place a bowl of water and a candle on the windowsill at midnight on Christmas, and you can count your dead, but do not shout out....". As you know, that same night is the night when the secret prayer to rid the "Eye" can be revealed. I always knew that there must be some connection between the prayer and the bowl, but it was not until JR revealed the "chant" to me several years ago that the connection became very clear (if you knew the words, you would perhaps understand).
My grandfather died 30 years ago, but it was 20 years ago when I first started, as we say, 'doing the bowl'. That year I had only one to count, my grandfather. Since then, more have died, and this year, there were five of my deceased (including my dad)that I wished to encounter.
Each year, the sign of the encounter is different. I never know what to expect, I don't know until that moment of midnight as to how the communication will take place. I can't remember many of what each of those signs were, but in any case they have meant something to me alone, as only I can interpert them. For example, at this last encounter, my grandfather's eyeglasses appeared as a reflection of my eyeglasses through the windowglass. If you were there with me, you just would have seen a reflection of my glasses in the window, nothing more. Only I could immediately know and recognize that they were in fact my grandfather's. I didn't plan it, I didn't guess that these were perhaps my grandfather's. I knew they were, and said to myself "Grandpa's glasses!" (But did not, thank goodness, shout out "Grandpa!"). It was shortly thereafter that I counted all 5 of my dead, first through the 5 remaining lights on the home next door, and then I noticed that the 5 fingers of my hand, still clutching my glasses and cupped over the flame, were fully extended and moving, encircling the light, and I counted them all, ..all five fingers... all 5 of my dead. You might call it a 'ghost' moving my fingers, but I call it a "spirit" ...It was me doing the moving, through the intercession of those who have died.
I think my mother and perhaps my oldest daughter are the only ones who understand this. Most all think it is hogwash. That's OK. Some believe in God as all powerful, all knowing, with power over all things, etc. Others believe in nothing. I believe only that Love has no end.
Gerry ****************************************************** 12-26-06, 12:44 PM jusork Ah, I see. That's a really interesting tradition. I also find it interesting because its you. Because you're a scientist, but you also follow this mystical tradition. Two different ways of thinking. I imagine you have to keep them separate. So do you plan on passing it down to your daughter then? And yeah, it's Justin. ****************************************************** 12-26-06, 02:05 PM gerry
quote: Originally posted by jusork: Ah, I see. That's a really interesting tradition. I also find it interesting because its you. Because you're a scientist, but you also follow this mystical tradition. Two different ways of thinking. I imagine you have to keep them separate. So do you plan on passing it down to your daughter then? And yeah, it's Justin.
I don't find the science and the mystical ever in conflict. All mystical signs received are in accord with the laws of physics. There is a scientific explanation of reflections off mirrors. The lights went out next door becuse the guy shut them off. My fingers moved from nerve impulses. In past encounters when I was counting 3 of my dead, my living room lights flicked on and off three times, unexplainably, but I later found out that the switch was faulty. During several other encounters, the candle flame went out on its own, and I understood its meaning, but scientifcally, it was due to a wind draft on one occasion, and the candle running out of wax on another. The science, however, knows NOTHING about feelings and the power of God (which I call Love). That is a very individual thing.
I did pass on the secret to my daughter 2 or 3 Christmas Eve's ago. She used it that first year to reach her deceased husband, with amazing results (her wedding bowl, sitting untouched for 10 years in her china cabinet, split in half, as she discovered the next day...that one's tough to explain scientifically, but I'm sure there was a physical reason for its occurrence). But my daughter did not 'do the bowl' this year, so I expect she may be having some doubts on its efficacy. I hope she comes around, because I'll need someone to call upon me on Christmas, after I have departed from this earthlife, and she would be the one, assuming, with a bit of hope and luck...my one and only wish..that I pre-decease her and all my children and grandchildren.
Besides my mother and daughter, I have passed on the prayer and the secret of the bowl to several others who inquired about it. I wish now that I hadn't, because, except for my mother and daughter, they were just inquisitive, not Believers. ****************************************************** 12-26-06, 11:50 PM jusork Hmm. I wouldn't have expected non-believers to want to do it. I suppose they'd just make a tradition out of it. I'm pretty skeptical about it (as with most things), although your daughter's wedding bowl breaking could almost be too far out there. I understand the significance of believing in the tradition. ****************************************************** 12-27-06, 09:52 AM gerry
quote: Originally posted by jusork: Hmm. I wouldn't have expected non-believers to want to do it. I suppose they'd just make a tradition out of it. I'm pretty skeptical about it (as with most things), although your daughter's wedding bowl breaking could almost be too far out there. I understand the significance of believing in the tradition.
Thanks for your interest. I am not sure what you mean by non-believers. All one has to do is to believe in Life and Death...that's the easy part....and believe in the interconnection between life and death amongst those few (and there are very few)who are closest to us...that's the hard part. ****************************************************** 12-27-06, 07:10 PM jusork By non-believers, I meant mainly the ones you told who "were just inquisitive, not believers," but I also included those who were skeptical in the interconnection between life and death (that's certainly the part that people are most skeptical about). ****************************************************** 12-27-06, 11:17 PM gerry
quote: Originally posted by jusork: By non-believers, I meant mainly the ones you told who "were just inquisitive, not believers," but I also included those who were skeptical in the interconnection between life and death (that's certainly the part that people are most skeptical about).
Oh, yes, sure. Many who claim that they can communicate with a loving God, through prayer, are unable to understand that communication with a deceased loved one is also possible. Some even pray to saints..good humans who have died...but can't even talk to their own dead. Hey, look, I like Saint Anthony, but I like my grandfather much more. Given the choice, I'll talk to Grandpa first, and Anthony later.
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It is that day once again, Gerry, of a tradition I first heard about from you now 5 years ago. Don't forget the words! And have a very Happy Christmas. Tanti auguri!
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The flame may have been already long extinguished before my midnight visit last night.
At just before the appointed hour, I unwrapped the candle from its cellophane packaging.
IT HAD NO WICK.
I crumbled it and tossed it in the trash.
I used a backup candle, place it in the water filed bowl on the sill, and lit it. And waited to count my dead.
But it was to no avail. The wickless candle lay useless in the trash basket. It was already over.
And then I realized the finality of death: "When", (quoting loosely from juaruiz) "all who knew us die, we die for the last time."
And now the meaning of the powerful last line of the secret prayer became most clear: At the end of our lives, only the memories of those who have loved us live on in their minds and heart, until they, too, shall pass, shouting, in their final moment, MAMMA! CA MORU!
And there is nothing more.
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"When", (quoting loosely from juaruiz) "all who knew us die, we die for the last time."
I remember saying that, but don't recall when. Non sai come mi dispiace che non si sia riuscita la ceremonia quest'anno. You don't know how sorry I am that the ceremony did not have success this year. I do hope your Holiday Season has been happy, though.
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And have a very Happy Christmas. Tanti auguri!
