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quote: Originally posted by MsSueM:
As an atheist, my understanding of the Bible is that sincere followers of Jesus would be inclined toward pacifism & non-violent resistance regarding secular warfare. It seems, however, that many Christians in the United States support war. What parts of the Bible do they use to come to that conclusion?
If it be so according to your own words why pray tell are you not making your post under the heading Atheist? Your understanding of the Bible is somewhat lacking. It may be because they are followers of Jesus and not the written word. |
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| Posts: 2188 | Location: Kingsford, MI USA | Registered: 06-13-02 | |
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quote: If it be so according to your own words why pray tell are you not making your post under the heading Atheist?
And you have the cheek to tell others to be civilised, Phil? Give it a break will you, and just answer the question.  |
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quote: Your understanding of the Bible is somewhat lacking. It may be because they are followers of Jesus and not the written word.
Since the question was addressed to Christians, "It seems, however, that many Christians in the United States support war. What parts of the Bible do they use to come to that conclusion?" this seems to be the right forum. The religion or lack of religion of the questioner isn't important, nor is the questioner's understanding or lack of understanding of the Bible.
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| Posts: 19511 | Location: Lincoln Place, Granite City, Illinois, USA | Registered: 06-03-02 | |
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quote: Originally posted by philalethist: quote: Originally posted by MsSueM:
As an atheist, my understanding of the Bible is that sincere followers of Jesus would be inclined toward pacifism & non-violent resistance regarding secular warfare. It seems, however, that many Christians in the United States support war. What parts of the Bible do they use to come to that conclusion?
If it be so according to your own words why pray tell are you not making your post under the heading Atheist? Your understanding of the Bible is somewhat lacking. It may be because they are followers of Jesus and not the written word.
I asked for the parts of the Bible that Christians use to justify support of war. Are you willing to elaborate on your last sentence? |
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The Old Testament does seem particularly barbaric, but my somewhat-lacking understanding  thought that Jesus ushered in a new way of peace. Are there passages in the New Testament that support secular war, or is this a case of Christians picking and choosing parts of the Old Testament to follow while saying other parts are no longer valid? |
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Sue, we get very few Christians posting here these days. (Phil, btw, is NOT a Christian, are you Phil?  ) But I hope someone will come along and answer with a better knowledge of the bible than me, perhaps JR, NNN or Fred. In my opinion, that's exactly what Christians do; pick and choose from the bible and interpret it in their various ways to justify their actions. And as I understand it, war can be justified by Christians under the 'Just War' theory. Here is a Christian site that gives a reasonable explanation: What does the Bible say about war? |
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We are in the middle of a war right now, not a war where a sword takes a persons life , but a sword that saves it. It is a battle for the minds and hearts of people. In the Garden there were two swords, one cut off the ear, and the other healed that ear.
Thus Hebrew 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
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| Posts: 2188 | Location: Kingsford, MI USA | Registered: 06-13-02 | |
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quote: Originally posted by dg: Sue, we get very few Christians posting here these days. (Phil, btw, is NOT a Christian, are you Phil? ) But I hope someone will come along and answer with a better knowledge of the bible than me, perhaps JR, NNN or Fred. In my opinion, that's exactly what Christians do; pick and choose from the bible and interpret it in their various ways to justify their actions. And as I understand it, war can be justified by Christians under the 'Just War' theory. Here is a Christian site that gives a reasonable explanation: What does the Bible say about war?
That's a very good Web page about the topic. It seems to confirm my thought that the concept of 'just war' is not Biblical. There are many Biblical references listed in support of pacifism but none for 'just war.' |
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