I was reading about a christian nudist camp and began to wonder...could people at a campsite where everyone is naked really be Christians. Does it sound more like sinners that's being sugar-coated as christians?

Not even a leaf to cover their.....well, nevermind.

I imagine someone would only commit a sin in a nudist camp if they look at the other nudists (who aren't their spouse) in an erotic way. As far as I know, nudists don't usually look at other nudists that way. So they act completely pure about it, as if they were really wearing clothes.

I bet it could fit into Christian thinking pretty well actually since they probably go by the thinking that God made humans naked, just like Adam and Eve, and that the body is beautiful because it's made by God. (Although I suppose God made Adam and Eve naked without intending for them to populate and make other people who could look at them. Did Adam and Eve start wearing clothes when their kids were born?)

Nudists don't rally even "see" the other nudists after a while.

It is like I am a nurse, and one body is much like another and well, it all looks about the same after a while.

Genesis 3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

So the fruit eaten may have been just the fact that man thought he was naked when it made no difference at all. Much like dwelling on a thought of your being wrong instead of going on to do what is right and in the best interest of your own life. Mans way of thinking is what makes him naked.

Well, it appears that those naked folks have arrived at the truth that we are not to worry about who can do whatever to the body and that we are to only concern ourselves with whoever can do adversity to the soul.

Now, if they would only move on and milk a lot more wisdom from the scriptures and, better yet, develop individual personal relationships with God.

Why, with all their nakedness, they look like what they are: babes in Christ. The angels must be laughing big time.

Hi, I joined this group just so I can reply to this. I know its a year old, but people still read it anyway.

I was impressed by an honest question, and even more, with answers that are honest and without anger or dispute.

I am a Christian Nudist! So, to answer some of your question, I hope to show who and what we are.

First of all, nudists come in all ages, shapes, ethnic groups, sizes, political and career backgrounds, and has been around for a very long time.

You will find pastors, teachers, scientists, artists, musicians, truck drivers, dancers, park rangers, police, firefighters, doctors, paramedics, welders, bricklayers, social workers, politicians, business owners and the jobless, wealthy, and poor, healthy and sick, babies, families and grandparents, whole families or just couples or singles. You will find them all there. Your next door neighbor, or community leader or favorite mechanic may be a nudist. Maybe a deacon in your church, or even your pastor!

What we are not, is a colony! We do not colonize any more than someone colonizes at a KOA Kampground or a Holiday Inn. Nor do we stare at each other! To us, it's normal!! The only difference, and I repeat...ONLY..is that one wear clothes and the others don't. These places we go to are called resorts or parks. The only reason we are behind walls or in remote locations out of sight is because society demands it that way. Otherwise, we are not ashamed or afraid to be who we are.

I also told you I am a "Christian" Nudist (Naturist) and I do have a ministry. It would be hard to tell you everything there is about Christianity and Nudism, but you can visit my website at www.geocities.com/boydallen and also our other website, www.christiannc.com

One is my personal site and the other is a Christian Nudist Convocation I am heading up.

One person was close on this forum about our shame in our bodies. When Adam & Eve took to themselves the fruit, (think of it as taking for themselves what is right and wrong subjectively instead of objectively from God) they stopped seeing God as who he really is. The thief on the cross saw Christ as who he is, so he as able to ask "Remember me when you come into your paradise".

So we learn that God has no shame of what he created. We are the ones who started seeing ourselves as something other than what God has done. We think that by our own works (see legalism and church doctrines using "thou shalts") and try to remake ourselves into our own images. God already created us in his image, and he did it naked. He told Adam and Eve to procreate (make lots of kids) and he told them to do so when they were still naked! Adam and Eve were the ones who perverted their nudity to something other than Gods vision. But through Jesus Christ, we have been redeemed, completely, whole, without shame. That includes YOU, even though you may or may not be a Christian, you have been completely redeemed.

So there are answers out there without having to speculate, however, you guys did a good job speculating! Visit our sites (Mine do NOT have pictures and it is free and has no other agendas).

Blessings to you all, and as I like to say, "May you Live Nude and Prosper"

Boyd Allen

Hello Boyd, and welcome to AP.

This Christian hangup with nudity is connected to the Christian hangup with sex. The naked body is dirty, sex is dirty. I, of course, would put part of the onus on Paul.

The hangup with nudity isn't just a Christian thing. It's a North American thing. Europeans aren't nearly as prudish about their bodies.
Ironic, isn't it, that here in North America, it's a Christian group that's being a little risqué? Still, with declining members, ( ) and all that, you have to try something innovative....

Welcome to AP, Boyd. It looks like an ad you have there to me. But still, it might be fun, if it wasn't for all the Christianity that goes along with it. Sort of like getting that free trip to Florida, but then having to endure the timeshare sales pitch that goes along with it.

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Originally posted by Boyd Allen:

First of all, nudists come in all ages, shapes, ...sizes...

This is why I'm against public nudity!

thanks for the quick replies.
I apologize if it seems to be like an ad. But funny thing is, there is nothing there for me to profit from.

But seriously, I am trying to help people understand the truth about naturism. It is true that the Europeans have less hangups about the body. But that does not mean that Christians in the US is "risque" by comparison. What is so risque about having the same attitude about the body that the Europeans have? We are trying to set the right example.

The national group, American Association for Nude Recreation (AANR) has rules that states behavior that is sexual or causing anyone to feel uncomfortable around others is not tolerated. That includes risque behavior, getting into other peoples business and being a general pest.

The apostle Paul was somehow brought into this subject and I assume that it's because someone thinks that he has a problem with sex. No, he doesn't, but from his writings, he is a very enthusiastic single. But that does not mean that he is responsible for our mis-thinking. We read into things that are not there simply because of our preconceptions of what happened to Adam and Eve.

And of course, the reason I did bring up the Christian aspect is because that is how the question was brought up in the first place.

I'm sorry my reply sounded like an advertisement, but if I pointed you to another related site, would that still be advertisment then? Or is it because I am pointing you to a site that helps you understand and it happens to be my site? You can look into it and find many more links that are not mine. So I am not advertising for my benefit. It's there for you, free, without strings attached. No sign ups, nothing that will impede you from learning what you want to learn. It is mostly text. I try to brighten it up a bit to make it interesting, but nothing more. Simply read. And if you have questions, feel free to ask. That is all.

Boyd

The view of the human body in the middle east of millenia ago is reflected in the Garden story. On eating the fruit, what is the first thing discovered? Nakedness and the need to cover the "offending parts." Even today, Hassidic Jewish women not only cover their body, but either wear scarves to cover their hair or put on wigs. As for Paul, he may not have commented on nudity, but in regard to sex he did express regret that all couldn't be like he, i.e., celibate. And I don't have to comment on the stance taken by fundamentalist Islam on the body, particularly the female one.

Boyd: Well, if you choose to send in a pic for our photo album, I imagine that there will be objections whether you are clothed or naked.

Well, I never intended to send in a picture in the first place, and even if I did, it would probably be clothed, since this is not a nudist site. Now I do have a couple of pictures out there in the nude, but they are only on Naturist sites, not sex sites or clothed sites. Only on legitimate naturists sites.

We are very careful where and how we send in our pictures. Most naturist sites that are serious about their naturism usually delete any photos that are sexual in nature. However, there are some sites that says "Naturist photos" and show 99% young women on beaches. That does not count. A real naturist site will have a cross section of all ages, sizes, races and male/female ratio that is nearly even, assuming who sends in thier photos.

But if you do want to see my pic, you can go to my Yahoo 360 and look up boydallen or if this link works:
http://360.yahoo.com/my_profile-XRykzeszdL.HNfg6fwO46NE...k9bSSxAHFa0AOJ3?cq=1

Wow...thats a long link, so if you are getting word wrap, you may want to copy and paste it. (Nothing for sale there. Just yack.)
BTW, check out my "Ecologically Sound" story for those who want to go "Green".

Boyd "Live Nude and Prosper" Allen

I peeked.

Ironically, Christians may make an exception for private nudity involving a married couple, yet believe Adam and Eve were ashamed to see each other nude after they sinned. Christian naturists view this as a contradiction.

It must be a North American thing. Can't see that religion has any relevance to it , what identifies Christian nudists from others or why nudism would be defined as an activity for Christians together. Do you have Jewish nudists ? (Granted the men have slightly less to show but the principle is the same)

In England, it's not against the common law to be naked in public, anywhere. Scots law is different to ours. We have the 'Cambridge nude cyclist' in the city nearest to here. The fact that he's the only one, in a city full of cyclists, may be a testament to the qualities of bicycle seats. One brave individual persists in trekking naked through England to Scotland, in all weathers. He's fine until he crosses the border, when he keeps getting arrested [see Scots law, above].We don't think he'll stop until he finally gets to John o'Groats. It's quite common to see nudist groups walking in our National Parks, which may surprise tourists who expected to see less of humans on the moor not more of the humans. Nudist beaches exist here because local councillors like to keep an eye on things and nudists seem to prefer to have such places. One interesting thing is that both here and in France fewer women go topless on beaches than was the case 5 years ago. Women now must feel they have made their points by now.

If God wanted us to walk around without clothes, we'd be born naked.

Gen 3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?

Thinking may well be the original sin! After all thinking is what makes ones mind naked.

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Originally posted by honilov:
I was reading about a christian nudist camp and began to wonder...could people at a campsite where everyone is naked really be Christians. Does it sound more like sinners that's being sugar-coated as christians?

Not even a leaf to cover their.....well, nevermind.

The Church is in the guilt business. No guilt = no need for there intervention with God on your behalf and no reason for you to reach for your wallet.

This Bishop says it better than I.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZM3FXlLMug

Regards
DL