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Did U know that the Goldfish is the most popular pet fish , and "Goldie" is the most popular name for a pet fish?

For centuries they have been pets in the Orient countries , but who was the man who imported them first from the Orient to the U.S?
 
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Obviously it was Sam Goldwyn whose name as an immigrant was Samuel Goldfish ! He had the fish named , in memory of his pre-Goldwyn days, probably for his dear white haired old mother Smile
 
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Fred,my source cites someone else ,a certain Rear Admiral! Smile
 
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Well, Amen ( sp?) to that!
 
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SInce they came from the Orient, and have been around for a while, I will guess that Dewey is the name you are seeking.
 
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This is a really stupid question. The fish look gold, Gold Fish. Sound reasonable? I have serious doubts any one singular person is responsible of importing fish of the orient. These fish are very hardy and healthy. They have probably been traded for years by common people.
 
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Wildflower63, I don't ask stupid questions , you should know by now that, I, most of the time have a source to back me up . Here it is .

http://www.fishsempai.com/

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Mozart, as usual, a good question, and one that had me guessing. Unfortunately, Dewey was not only the best answer I could come up with, but also the only one. I looked at the answer, but will not post it, allowing others to test themselves.

WF, there have been some bad Trivia questions posted in here, but this wasn't one of them. Mozart is one of the most respected people in AP, and when he asks a question, I, along with any serious Trivia person, pay attention. The Trivia Forum is different than most of the rest of AP. The vast majority, well over 95% of all questions, have a definite answer. Opinions rarely matter, facts do.

Fred, that was funny about Goldwyn, and of course, you are right about his name.
 
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You have got to be kidding! You mean that is true? A man named Goldwin imported Asian GOLD fish????
 
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Please look at the link, WF.

Described already in ancient writings from the Tsin Dynasty dating to about 300 A.D., China boasts the earliest documented accounts of goldfish breeding and keeping. The fixation with this lovely creature is further revealed in the depictions found on Chinese pottery art. It was during the Ming Dynasty (1368-1643 A.D.) that the goldfish craze and diversification of breeding spread as frequent exports to Japan took place.

Europe’s love affair with the fair goldfish did not burgeon until the 1700s. In fact, France's King Louis XV was known to have gifted exquisite goldfish to one of his mistresses, the Marquise de Pompadour, to win her affections. Later, the famous French Fauvist painter Henri Matisse made as his subject, the goldfish, in a series of his works, the most famous of which is the ‘Goldfish’ painted in 1912.

North America was among the last to be introduced to the lovely goldfish in the 1870s when brought from Japan by Admiral Daniel Ammon.

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I checked out the link. I already knew it for the most part. I love goldfish. No joke, they are smart. Really, I'm not kidding about this. I have kept them as indoor pets and in an outside plastic pond with a fountain. You can almost train these fish like dogs they are so huge in appetite. Reward them with food and they will do all kinds of fish things. The tropicals are a complete bore compaired to a goldfish. They are way cool pets, even outdoors, which is best. Love goldfish!

I don't get all the trivia I guess because I don't care. I'm still standing by import of these intelligent and hardy fish by common trade instead of one singular person responsible for this discovery of the east.

Isn't that why Columbus traveled the ocean blue? He was in search of eastern trade and skipping on the taxation of going through other countries. Anything of interest will sell, including goldfish.
 
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WF I'm with you on this. Indeed as Sam Goldwyn himself said about it:

"Trade I accept. But Rear Admirals? Now we are talking fish of a wholly different color" Smile
 
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