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How big is a member of the genus platypus ?
 
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Tricky, Fred! The animal commonly known as the platypus (or duck-billed platypus), an Australian monotreme, has scientific name Ornithorhynchus anatinus. Ornithorhynchus ≠ Platypus.

On the other hand, there is beetle of genus platypus -- common name 'wood-boring ambrosia beetle' -- belonging to family Platypodidae of order Coleoptera. They are apparently small beetles of a few millimeters in length, though I can't find an exact description of size. Ref.
 
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Guess #1: Bigger than a breadbox?

Guess #2: Smaller than a breadbox?

Footnote for the historically naive: Breadboxes were actual objects in the days before refrigerators.

Footnote for wordsmiths: Why do we call them "RE frigerators"? Weren't they just frigerators? From frigerare to cool?
 
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Prof. , that's the one. Smile This is one of those pieces of nature trivia concerning confusing nomenclature. The best one for pub quizzes is the question of what seabird is called puffinus puffinus. That is not the puffin. It's the manx shearwater. That's because the first specimens sent for naming were thought to be puffins. Only later did the embarrassed naturalists find out that they'd been dissecting young shearwaters but by then the mistake was in print. Big Grin

The Oxford English Dictionary indicates that the description platypus had already been assigned to the genus of beetles before the scientists naming the monotreme realised that the name had been taken. No surprise perhaps that people studying insects in those days had no quick links to those naming antipodean animals. The description is Greek for flat or broad- footed.
 
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Babs: 'Breadbox'? Refrigerator? The refrigerator does make cool again that which is becoming too warm but the true origin of the word is in refrigerare. The Latin verb means simply 'to cool' and no play is or was made of the 're-' element that might suggest restitution , making cool again. It was used both literally and figuratively, so it could refer to a friendship or love cooling. The verb frigerare did exist but is noted in Lewis and Short's Latin Dictionary as " very rare". It means 'to refresh with coolness'. Better though is the word refrigeratrix. This means 'she who makes cool' and the Dictionary gives but one example, which is from the historian and naturalist Pliny the Elder where he writes of "Nature the Cooler" (natura refrigeratrix ). Classically sexist, Lewis and Short note the male form of this noun though they only deduce its existence and give no example of its use. Obviously, if there is the inferior female form then that must come from the superior male form Big Grin And the male form? It's refrigerator.

Breadbox seems to be an American word. The English 'bread bin' is but an airtight container designed to stop the bread from drying and becoming stale. The predecessor of the refrigerator here was the meat safe. This was a room built on the north side of a house. It was ventilated by an aperture covered in gauze to stop flies from entering. We had one in a house built as late as 1952. Refrigerators back then were both bulky and of small capacity, big enough for regular joints of meat but not much else. Ours stayed in use for many years for hanging game in, something for which it was ideal. Controlled putrefaction was what it was best at !

Very grand houses had subterranean 'ice houses' in the grounds. Lined with brick these were kept cool all Summer by blocks of ice taken from the house's lake in Winter.
 
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Have you been watching that excellent programme "QI" Fred? Wink
 
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I knew platy- meant flat, but I thought it meant 'flat mouth', not 'flat feet'. Actually a platypus' puss is cute, I think. Why are there no platypus puppets, I wonder? You could give it a DonaldDuck voice. And they have weird funny little feet, sort of like a dachshund. Perfect.
 
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Have you been watching that excellent programme "QI" Fred? Wink


Absolutely I have. The programme format ought to do well in the States but until it gets there I'll nick the odd bit e.g the platypus and recycle it here (not plagiarism or breach of copyright just 'research' or 'reviewing' , you understand. Anyhow you can't copyright plain fact Big Grin )
 
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I couldn't think of a better programme to plagiarise use to help with your research. Big Grin It's one of the very few things that I watch on TV.
 
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I believe "breadbox" sprang into common lexical use in the US in the 1950s when entertainer Steve Allen appeared as a panelist on the hit tv game show "What's My Line?", trying to guess a contestant's occupation. If it involved a product he invariably asked if it was bigger than a breadbox.

Thinking logarithmically, breadboxes are a nice intermediate size between, say, thimbles and boxcars. Smile
 
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