Can someone settle a disagreement for me. I was telling Ritz about my holiday and mentioned seeing buffalo or bison, I said they were the same thing as this is what we were told by the rangers in Yellowstone Nat Park. He said they are different. Who is right?

Hi Jenny,
I thought they were the same thing too. It seems that Ritz, as usual, is right

Bison vs. Buffalo: What's the Difference?

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Originally posted by dg:

I thought they were the same thing too. It seems that Ritz, as usual, is right

Or not.Settlers called the American bison a buffalo, so that's what it is. By scientific logic the robin doesn't exist in North America. Settlers in America called a red-breasted thrush (turdus migratorius, from Latin turdus ' a brown object' and 'migratorius' flying through the air' [a reference for dg there ]) a robin, because it was like the robin ( erithacus rubecula, Latin from Greek erithacus 'ruddy bird' and Latin rubecula 'little red' ) back home in Europe.

Either way, nobody should try to make mozzarella after milking a bison.

I've been about 5' from one of those, regardless of what it's called. Anybody who is willing to milk one can do whatever he wants with the milk as far as I'm concerned.

Ah, Jenny, never one to wish to contradict a lady, you will just have to make up your own mind...

Well, OK Fred, a rose by any other name...I could call my piano a cheese grater, because the wires inside it remind me of one...come to think of it, my students often make it sound like a giant one...

DG. Now everyone knows that men do not milk bovines. women's work. The buxom lass marches up with her bucket unsheathed, and the animals are as meek as...well...as meek as we men are when our women tell us how it really is...

The park rangers called them bison or buffalo, they said they were the same. I'm referring to the North American buffalo.

Look, Jenny, the North West piano teacher calls his piano a cheese grater. He calls his organ Atlas (but that's another story) but it doesn't make his piano a cheese grater. But if that is what he calls it, according to Fred, then who is anyone to contradict him? My dog is a bison (smells like one at times, as I have told you before) therefore he aslo is a bison. QED

Aslo? He needs a drink, if you ask me...

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Originally posted by Ritzmar:
Aslo? He needs a drink, if you ask me...

Perhaps Ritz meant 'Asbo', a good name for many dogs?

Down here we call the piano the joanna.

Isn't a bison what a Brummy washes his hands in?

Oi didn't nairw us Brummoise washed air 'ands...?...?...

I am reminded of the Brummy (ie, for our friends across the pond, a native of Birmingham, UK) who was invited to a fancy dress party. He decided to go wearing early 70's dress, so went to a stage shop to kit himself out.

(Please forgive, no time or energy to write in Brummy accent, so you Brits will just have to use your imaginations).

Shop assistant: "You'll want platforms on your shoes, a big collar on your shirt, flared trousers & check jacket, Sir?"

Brummy: "Yes, please."

Shop assistant: "Kipper tie?"

Brummy: "Very kind of you, but I've just had a coffee, thanks."

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Originally posted by Ritzmar:

Shop assistant: "Kipper tie?"

Brummy: "Very kind of you, but I've just had a coffee, thanks."

Boom ! Boom!

Translation:

'Kipper tie' is "cup of tea"/ "cup o' tea" in a Birmingham accent

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Originally posted by FredPuli:

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Originally posted by Ritzmar:

Shop assistant: "Kipper tie?"

Brummy: "Very kind of you, but I've just had a coffee, thanks."

Boom ! Boom!

That was really, really terrible Ritz.
And, "Calls his organ Atlas"...I just about choked on my coffee here !

Fred, you sound like Basil Brush

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Originally posted by dg:


Fred, you sound like Basil Brush

Yes,I'm a foxy dog

Basil Brush took 'boom boom' from a great old act. It was 'invented' by the old comedian Billy Bennett, in the days of censorship by the local 'Watch Committee'. To get his act through their audition he had the drummer bang ' boom boom' on the last, rude, word of the joke or monologue. If he'd said the word at all, it wouldn't be heard, but he didn't have to say it. He could leave it to the imagination and no worthy would admit to an imagination like that

Bily Bennett's monologues are usually parodies of high-minded, moral, monologues or poems with which the audience would have been familiar.

Click on " Christmas Day in the cookhouse" and "The shooting of Dangerous Dan McGrew " for a sample of his absurdist style. He was capable of a little satire and self-mockery too. For his act, he dressed like a tramp and may have been a worry to his parents, hence "My mother doesn't know I'm on the stage".That one is still pertinent today And "The Bookmaker's Daughter" is so good (or bad) that the punsters on AP would have been proud to write it !

"Almost a gentleman"

Now look HERE Ritz, Brummie or not, the bison is also called the American buffalo! So there

You tell him, Jenny.

From your buffalo link, it seems you can make a donation too:

Donation Categories:

Bull Bison $50 and up
Cow Bison (leader of the herd) $25
Calf Bison $15

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Originally posted by dg:
From your buffalo link, it seems you can make a donation too:

Donation Categories:

Bull Bison $50 and up Cow Bison (leader of the herd) $25

Now this seems unnecessarily risqué to my way of thinking, and also somewhat ambiguous. Does cow bison charge $50 or $25? Does Bull Bison charge headlong (like many an over-eager male)? If they charge together, who pays? Is it a total of $75? Is there a standing charge? If they charge the herd, does the herd have to pay?
...not quite sure I understand...?...?...

There's a joke in there somewhere ("Herd of buffalo? Sure, I've heard of buffalo!"), but I'm just too tired to work it out.

Excellent, DG!

For Jenny (although I know that I am wasting my breath)

Here you will read

this:

NOTE: Is it Buffalo or Bison?
The American Buffalo is not a true buffalo. Its closest relative is the European Bison or Wisent and the Canadian Woods Bison, not the buffalo of Asia or Africa, such as the Cape Buffalo or Water Buffalo. Scientifically, the American Buffalo is named Bison and belongs to Bovidae family of mammals, as do domestic cattle. Because our history has so ingrained in us the name "Buffalo", we still use it, although "Bison" and "Buffalo" are used interchangeably.

But, Jenny, when you come for your lesson on Thursday, we can use the ice cream cornet at right angles to the joanna/cheese grater, if that is what you wish to call it...

Fred, I have never heard of Billy Bennett, thanks for that link. I have looked at a couple of the listed poems and they are excellent. At the weekend, when I have a little more time, I shall peruse that list at my leisure. Once again, many thanks!