Click here for AnswerPool.com Home page


Google

    AnswerPool.com  Hop To Forum Categories  Health  Hop To Forums  Fitness & Nutrition    Hypnosis for food

Moderators: Silja
Go
Post
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
  Login/Join 
Posted
Don't know where to post this...addictions? Alternative health? Nutrition?
I am thinking about hypnosis to facilitate my remaining on the South Beach Diet, which I did very well with until I fell off the wagon as I always do.
Anyone have any experience with it? Thoughts?
thanks
wzlwmn
 
Posts: 71 | Location: Virginia, USA | Registered: 09-24-04Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
I worked for WW for 20 years as a Leader. ( was asked by a friend to go on the SOuth Beach Diet with her for support. I only lasted 2 dayson the program. It was too restrictive for me...I do much better with the Exchange Program;not denying myself anything that I want to eat. I also do well counting calories. I have heard of people having Hypnosis for weight control. I have never heard anuthing about the success rate. After 25 years, I still keep a journal of what I eat.. I am within 5 pounds of my goal. If I didn"t journal, I would probably be back to my old weight..200 pounds or more.. When I fall off the program, I forgive myself and start over with the next neal. One day at a time. Don't be so hard on yourself. An excellent site is Healthy Exchanges.com. The support is wonderful on this site. Don't Give Up.
Ansford
 
Posts: 10 | Location: New Columibia. Pa. USA | Registered: 07-05-02Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Diamond Enthusiast

Posted Hide Post
Hype-nosis? Hm That mayn't really work, unless you are suggestive. If you are suggestive then I suggest you send me $29.99 for my New Book "My diet will make your wallet lose weight fast" In it I will make other suggestions to buy more of my products and in the end either you or your wallet will be much lighter.

Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Most diets I have ever heard of come complete with calorie counters or carb counters, or fat counters or sugar counters or water counters or lists and charts and insist you need to learn a new science in order to eat right. Most have their accompanying books ranging from 19.99 (plus shipping and handling) to 29.99 (plus shipping an handling). These are money making programs.

ALL diets require you to "give up". You give up certain foods, Give up sane shopping, you give up a lot in search of the balance between input and out put.

What you need is a nutrition Life style, something that you can do all the time, something that reduces calories while not reducing the amount of food you eat or one that restricts what you can eat.

The simplest way I have found to reduce calories while maintaining the amount of food I eat is a reduced fat and reduced sugar "diet". It is a life style, I have been eating less fat and less added sugar for years, when I first started I was over 50 pounds over weight. it took nearly a year for me to get my body down to a "healthy weight". Through a process of more exercise and eating less calories through how I prepare foods. Not through counting calories or carb intake or all of that other nonsense.

That would be the added fat and added sugar. Things like using Oil, Lots of Butter, whole milk, etc. which are high in fat and do have alternatives which are lower in fat.

EXAMPLE: Using "light" margarine instead of regular margarine is 50 Calories per table spoon instead of 100 calories per tablespoon. using Nutra Sweet or Sweet and Low or even half a teaspoon of sugar compared to a full teaspoon of sugar per cup of tea or coffee. Dry frying foods - like chicken, if you have a set of non-stick fry pans you do not need to use any oil to fry chicken. You need a lid, a low heat and to turn the chicken several times in the cooking process.

It is a life style change which takes a long, long time to lose weight however you do keep that weight off without cutting out food groups, cutting the amount of food you eat.

Forget the food pyramid, Forget having counters and charts and all of those things which only confuse you more. Stick to a simple plan, less fat and oil, more fruits and vegetables, Less salt more herbs and spices.

Compare one table spoon of regular margarine it has 100 calories. A serving of Canned corn has 60 calories. That means you can eat more corn (1/2 cup) than Margarine. But you love the flavor of butter? Fine get yourself a bottle of Butter Buds - an artificial butter seasoning which has 5 calories per searching (1 tsp) which will give you the flavor with less calories.

One of the worst things about dieting is that you are restricted, especially during the Holiday season and Winter. Winter is the worst time of year to start a diet. So too is January (For those with New Years resolutions)

For thousands and millions of years our species lived off the land. Turn to nature and you find that all creatures great and small load up on high calorie foods starting in the fall, eat more gain more weight to make through the lean winter months. There is not accident in nuts having lots of oils and fats and being high in calories, Mom Nature knew what she was doing making nuts and seeds available in the fall to help everyone get fat and sassy for the Winter.

It is natural and expected that everyone gains weight *fat* in the fall that lasts through winter. Come spring you start getting more active, and you find that you will be hungry for lighter "cool" things. Ideally in the summer time you become a grazer, not that big of a hunger, but a constant trickle of food satisfies your hunger.

So season has a big impact on your weight, doing a diet in fall and winter is against the grain of how your body perceives things - which is not based on the cold but based on the amount of sunlight.

Which brings me to another point. The body relies on sunlight to regulate itself. Light bulbs do not provide a bright light, they are really dim compared to sunlight. If you are indoors all the time you are getting less sunlight all the time, the body interprets that to mean it is winter, and the body is geared toward survival in the inter months by packing on the pounds. Even if you have huge windows and can see the bright light, you need to get your body out there and absorb some of that bright light ---> which creates vitamin D which plays a minor roll in all of the chemistry that tells the body that its the summer and time to lose those extra pounds so you can run faster and hunt up a meal.

Everyone thinks that because there are a couple of feasts during the Winter Holidays that that is why they are gaining weight. Untrue, Christmas, Thanksgiving feasts do not add that much to your diet, unless you are eating like that each and every day - which I wager most people do not. It is the season of winter which causes weight gain - not the holiday feasts.

That is the reason why Turkey For these holidays tastes a lot better than Turkey in Summer - Again it is keyed into the seasons and the survival of your species through getting fat for the lean months of winter.

Though the simple logic of Eat less Calories and you lose weight appears on the surface to hold true, we find that in practice this really fails, and even leads to yo-yo weight gain/loss.

Why? Because the human body is designed to survive. Starving yourself creates a situation where the body falls into survival mode, part of that is weight loss at first (mostly water) but then the body starts cutting back on spending energy, starts supplementing fat with muscle, and other things from organs, bones, etc. In extreme cases of starvation the body begins to shut down and devour those organs which are lower on the list of organs that must continue. The body will eat up the liver and kidneys to feed the heart and brain. The reason why dieters start losing energy and feeling fatigued all the time is not because they are not getting enough to eat, but because the body is conserving its resources and to do so requires shutting down higher functions.

And when you stop the starvation the body will purposefully convert as much of the food as possible into storable food sources - FAT because the body is preparing for the next famine. When ever the body is injured it over compensates in healing, this is why bones at first mend with a very thick cover of bone, and even years after the break you can feel the slight bump that the bone makes to prevent a break in that location again. Same with skins wounds, scar tissue is tough for the simple reason that the body mends itself stronger to prevent the same area from being injured again.

With all of this going on no amount of hypnosis or "will power" will break millions of years of survival skills that the body has developed.

Since you live in Virgina I would urge you to leave off dieting and weight loss until mid February, when it starts warming up and you can spend more time out doors and get full sunlight and when you can exercise more.

EXERCISE is another key to the weight management secret. Exercise is not getting a gym pass and killing yourself on a stationary bike or with weights, it can be as much as talking a half hour walk OUTSIDE each day, or parking further from store and office doors. I would suggest that starting in mid February as you go back on your diet that you also take up a program where you dedicate about 1/2 hour per day to walking OUTSIDE - absorb some of those bright rays of light, tricking your body into believing that Summer has arrived. If it is still too cold, then hold off for the warmer weather Wink

Another thing I would suggest is giving yourself one meal per week to "break the diet" contrary to popular belief one meal does not ruin any diet. If anything it gives you a reward meal where you can eat yourself silly on those "no no" foods.

I would strongly urge you to look into ways to reduce calories without reducing the amount of food on the plate. Like cutting back on cooking fats, added sugars while upping fresh fruits and vegetables. The idea is to provide your body will food to keep it filled up, while reducing the amount of calories.

In reality it is far easier to cut out the fats and sugars than you think. A few hints:

1. Cook pasta without oil.
2. Dry fry meats - most meats have more than enough fats and oils to "fry" in their own juices in the pan.
3. Cut from whole milk to 2% or Non-fat for cooking, baking, etc.
4. Use a "light" margarine which is half the fat content of "regular margarine".
5. Get used to parking away from the front doors of stores, offices, etc. These has two great aspects to it. 1. You walk more (get more exercise) and 2. you get far less stress finding a parking spot Wink

Forget the Scales, the BMI charts, the Charts of height and weight - these are all set as AVERAGES of what "should be" if you are an Average human being. This may not reflect the truth of who you are.

Believe it or not some people, like me, are born and genetically wired for a little extra padding. In the height of my "body building days" I learned a bitter truth, in order for me to have wash board abs I would have to go on a highly restrictive diet to attain the 3% body fat I would need for my abs to "pop". This would be completely counter to my genetic makeup and as my doctor said, I would be unadvised to do so.

Body type is a serious subject, there are people who are naturally born to 3% body fat and can eat all they want and never put on fat. While there are others who can eat anything and it turns to fat. You need to discover your body type and aim for the ideal for your genetic makeup.

The true measurement of body fat is the body fat percentage measurement You can't do that at home, you need a specialist to either pinch and measure the mount of fat on various areas of your body, or to stick you in a vat of water and see how much you displace.. I would urge you to discuss your weight with a doctor first, then look at your family, how many skin and bones relations do you have? If the answer is none, then you can pretty much figure that you will always have an extra layer of padding.

Fat is not a bad thing, it serves a vital roll in your survival - of course too much of a good thing is bad for you, this applies to fat as well. Unless you are 100 pounds over the accepted weight charts, or have rolls of fat, the fact may e that you are close to your personal ideal weight and any diet you take on is counter to your genetic make-up.

Weight management is NOT a simple game. There are a lot of factors in this, these must be understood to even begin a weight loss program that meets your needs. Hypnosis will do nothing expect lighten your wallet, you need to really understand all the factors in play in order to know what is going on and why you fell of the diet wagon.

David
 
Posts: 4020 | Location: Leaving land, heading for the ocean | Registered: 06-03-02Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Bronze
Enthusiast
Picture of SAINT DAN
Posted Hide Post
dave,
you do well on essay type exams don't you?
 
Posts: 456 | Location: louisiana, usa | Registered: 06-03-02Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Diamond Enthusiast

Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by SAINT DAN:
dave,
you do well on essay type exams don't you?


Why Yes I do, how did you guess? Wink
 
Posts: 4020 | Location: Leaving land, heading for the ocean | Registered: 06-03-02Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
"Weight management is NOT a simple game. There are a lot of factors in this, these must be understood to even begin a weight loss program that meets your needs. Hypnosis will do nothing expect lighten your wallet, you need to really understand all the factors in play in order to know what is going on and why you fell of the diet wagon."

David, agree. I have spoken to my Dr, and all they do right away is tell you that insurance will probably pay for bypass surgery. Excuse my vernacular, but f-that. lol
I know why I fell off the diet wagon....I eat when I get depressed, I eat when I get mad, and I have something to blame for why life is not perfect as long as I am fat. All that aside I still want to lose weight because I feel (for the first time ever, even tho I have generally been a big girl all along) physically unfit.
I have no desire to be...um...Ally McBeal (sorry I don't really watch teevee, I forget her name). But I don't want to keel over of a heart attack....
wzlwmn
 
Posts: 71 | Location: Virginia, USA | Registered: 09-24-04Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Diamond Enthusiast

Posted Hide Post
"I eat when I am depressed, I'm depressed because I eat too much" " is that where you are at?

There is no magic answer, there is no magic pill yet, they are working on one though Big Grin!

I don't know if this is possible, can you start doing something else when depressed or angry? Like take a walk around the block or something that requires you to move about, doing "something" which is more constructive?

I know depression hits people in different ways, it manifests itself in many behaviors, some which are destructive and can, with a little work, be converted into other behaviors which are not (as) destructive.

I know that it is really hard to not "should" yourself when depressed, things like "I should stick to my diet" or "I shouldn't be so fat" Perhaps part of the problem is you are 'shoulding' all over yourself and making dieting harder than it it needs to be.

What kind of therapy are you under for depression? Perhaps this is another aspect to that that you need to bring up with your doctor, this may be considered a borderline eat disorder. Knowing that may change the answer you get from doctor.

I suggest a book here, Bodystat : How to Reset Your Fat Thermostat Permanently

Find it at your local library, check it out and read it it. There are a lot of helpful hints which may help you here.

For one thing this book advocates eating all the time - Yep, 6 meals a day, however in context of the book you learn that what you are really doing is grazing all day long on healthier foods, in reality you will be eating less calories and perhaps even less volume. Maybe by being able to eat all the time you can feed that need that depression is giving you, while still being on a "diet" which will allow you to lose weight, and give you something to feel good about yourself over.

David
 
Posts: 4020 | Location: Leaving land, heading for the ocean | Registered: 06-03-02Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
 Previous Topic | Next Topic powered by eve community  
 

    AnswerPool.com  Hop To Forum Categories  Health  Hop To Forums  Fitness & Nutrition    Hypnosis for food

© 2002-2008 AnswerPool.com



Visit DiscussionPool.com!