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Originally posted by dance girl:
I think you misunderstand me, Fred. It is really inexpensive to eat junk food here, and it's eating out, as in restaurants, that costs half as much.

No I don't( dg,you should know by now that we never misunderstand one another. It's the ones born in the US who don't understand us ) . That's exactly what I understood you to be saying

Tell you what, I bet that Ronald has lots of stats to show that a child can live on a diet of his fare without being malnourished It's a middle- class fad to go on about 'salads' and 'organic' food and 'five portions of fruit and veg' and 'toxins'.The image of Sunday Times readers worrying in a Waitrose supermarket in the stockbroker belt about whether this vegetable is organically grown, lest they deprive their family of health, is absurd (but sadly, true, if the paper and advertising is anything to go by) British children are 'junk food' eaters, too.Is there any peer reviewed evidence to show that American children are malnourished (in the medical sense, not just badly fed)? But, of course,once a child has learned bad habits in eating, it may be heading to an early grave from obesity etc

It's an uphill battle. When our schools revised their meals there were mothers outside pushing burgers, chips, kebabs, etc through the gates because there children 'wouldn't eat' the healthier diet !

We are not talking pre-war poverty here. (When rationing came in , it was widely thought to have improved the health of the nation, particularly that of the poorest part).Perhaps America should give it a try? One scientist has jokingly suggested that we should have it: that way the children would eat better, at least. One thing that strikes me about the diet occasioned by rationing is that it contains more fat than I would eat. The ration was supplemented by an issue of fish liver oil and processed orange juice for very young children (up to 3 years)

Rationing in wartime Britain meant this :

Food rationing

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Originally posted by FredPuli:
No I don't( dg,you should know by now that we never misunderstand one another. It's the ones born in the US who don't understand us ) . That's exactly what I understood you to be saying

Awww, Fred. What a good person you are! You made my day. I'm so glad one of us understands me. I suppose we should talk about you sometime. Nah.. I'm more interesting.

From Fred's rationing link - To save petrol, many vehicles, especially buses, were converted to run on gas. A large gas bag was fitted to the roof of the bus, which looked very comical.

At least politicians were still in good supply, so you has plenty of gas bags available.

I prefer the evolutionary food 'pyramid' which is not really a pyramid at all

It takes into account how humans increased their dietary choices and at what period.

The broad base is fruit and veg (nuts in season) with a smattering of meats. This represents the hunter/gatherer stage of human development.

6 servings of veg/fruit with 3 servings of lean meat - a serving of fruit could be one apple.

On top of that is a grain/legume section with a dairy (cheese, milk egg) section which is about half the size of the other.

This represents the agricultural revolution when we humans learned to grow our own food. Prior to this period we found more fruit and veg than grain, grain least ways the grains we have are domesticated and breed to be larger and more hardy - prior to our tampering grains were rare finds. Around this same period we started milking animals. Egg gathering is something we did during our hunter gather phase, however once we learned how to domesticate egg layers we incorporated more egg in our diet.

Beans are 'in season' type crops. Although our ancestors may have found them in the fall while hunter gather's it is highly possible that they stored dried lentils for the winter. Nuts most likely should fit in here since most of them are fall 'crops' meaning are available during the packing on of fat for winter period.

On top of that is Alcohol, processed fats and sugars which shuld make up a very tiny portion of daily food intake.

The broad base of grains is an economic diet, not a physical needs diet. Grains contain high levels of carbs and starches - while it is by far cheaper to feed billions of people with grains, veg and fruit meet the dietary needs of fiber, starch, carbs and other nutrients far better than just grains even whole grains.

On top of that we humans are grazers. We often make the terrible mistake of 3 large meals a day. The body is not designed to hold food it is designed to process a steady stream of food. So 6 smaller meals should be eaten - with one portion or serving of fruit or veg. If we halved the 3 big meals and spread those halves over the course of the day, eating more fruit and veg we would eat more volume of food, but eat less calories since the caloric value of fruit and veg is lower per pound than say meat, grain, fats, sugar.