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I am considering removing my carpet and putting down wood floors. I have a concrete slab, so the floor will be placed over the slab. I also have a dog, who unfortunately occasionally urinates on the carpet. I am hoping he does not continue this habit on the wood floor, but I need to buy a floor that will not be ruined if he does. What do you suggest? Can I use natural wood, or do I have to go with a wood-look laminate?
 
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Many of the laminates are not very "moisture tolerant" and cannot be cleaned with most disinfectant cleaners like Mr. Clean or Lysol.

If it were my floor, I'd go with real wood and seal it well or change tracks altogether and go to vinyl or tile.
 
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A lot depends on exactly what the substrate is. If it is above ground-storey level, the problem is simpler.

If it is on a ground-level storey, and if it is concrete, and has been properly laid down with appropriate vapor barrier, not just plastic film, then you can use either wood or laminate.

But if there is any chance that moisture can be wicked up from the subsoil or concrete with no interleaving vapor barrier, then the intelligent choice would be either
(1) go with the option that would be cheapest to replace, should swelling, mold, warping or any other problem due to moisture wicking arise, or
(2) have the substrate reviewed before construction. It may be fine; or it may need to be dug up and replaced using approved procedures and materials, making very sure that you use a well-qualified contractor who
1. understands the principles involved, and
2. guarantees his/her work, and
3. agrees to municipal inspection before the last large payment is made on the project.

p.s. Please check into the latest alternatives to wood-look laminate. Some of the vinyl and laminate floor covering patterns are really lovely, and are considered a little more tasteful, because they are not imitating anything.

(It's like the difference between real mink and faux-fur mink: faux is tacky. Unless of course you are an animal-rights activist. In which case, why imitate real fur in the first place?)

A strong alternative I would look at is natural-fiber covers such as hemp. They go right over the floor or sub-floor, and they breathe. Unlike most commercial "carpeting",they are made of non-toxic fibers, and don't need a lot of chemicals to prevent them from changing color,molding, or degrading in sunlight. In fact they just need reasonable cleanliness, fresh air, and sunlight to be safe and hygenic.

Other natural fibers are made from corn leaves and stalks, sea grass, jute, and coir (coconut-husk fiber). They are washable, and when you discard them, they are bio-degradable: they can be thrown in the compost pile at the end of their useful life and will break down with little or no damage to the web of life.

So usually you can see your kids and grand-kids crawling on them, picking up toys and putting them into their tiny mouths, -- whatever - without well-grounded fear that they will be harmed.

You have not mentioned carpeting as an alternative. So I'm sure you're aware that almost all carpet is made from petroleum byproducts and synthetics such as polypropylene, nylon and acrylic. Also, it’s usually treated with stain or soil repellents, antistatic sprays, artificial dyes, antimicrobial treatments, that are toxic to humans, especially children. The backing could be made from vinyl or synthetic latex. Padding can contain PVC, urethane, and other suspect materials.

And as for 'nice cheap' products imported from third-world countries, which don't even protect their own workers from lead or other toxins, what do you expect?

A hard flooring material, with natural-fiber rugs, is healthier for people without allergies. And much healthier for people with allergies. But for people with allergies, no rugs is best.

p.s. I have laminate faux-wood in part of my living room. Red Face
 
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I would strongly urge you to consider some other material.

Concrete slabs wick moisture from the ground up into the top flooring. For carpeting the fabric breathes, so just as soon as moisture hits the top of the concrete it has someplace to go - evaporation into the air.

For wood floors, laminates whatever the water vapor gets trapped beneath the flooring. Even those so called 'floating' floors that sit on a rubberized plastic vapor barrier are going to warp and suffer from the build up of water.

Tiles (stone or ceramic) would most likely work best given the strata you have to build on (concrete slab).

Dogs and wood floors don't go well either - not because of the pee, but because of their nails. laminates and hardwoods are easy to scratch, not matter how many clear coats you put on them.

Add pee and wood and you will have a serious problem.

Mind no matter what you do for a new floor system, you need to clean and then seal the concrete where the dog has peed.

This means a cup of bleach to a gallon of water. For concrete you got to mop it on - nearly pour it on, let it sit 15-39 minutes, then mop it up and rinse, rinse, rinse. Then you need to let it dry for 24 hours then you apply an epoxy based cement paint - 2 coats should do it, I always used 3.

What this will do is kill the scent - yeah I know you don't smell it, but dogs can and dogs will urinate constantly on the same spot - 'marking territory' as it were. The bleaching will kill most of the urine chemicals that smell, the epoxy coat will seal the rest in providing a physical barrier to keep the scent from coming through.
 
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i would also go with woodfloors and seal maybe put a few coats over it
 
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