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I bought one of these new toilets and I'm not at all happy with it. I'm not exactly familiar with plumbing, but was told the inside parts were standard modern parts. Is there any way I can set it to fill the bowl with more water?
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11-20-02, 06:25 AM
Walks On Water
Yes, these new modern toilets are a real pain. 1.6 gal. per flush as mandated by the govermant is ridiculous. 1.6 will flush it so you flush twice. Total 3.2 gals. Where's the savings.

Not knowing your design, it is hard to tell you how to make any "adjustments."

Is it a standard high back or new "Low Boy" design. When you flush, does it use the whole tank of water, or stop short with still a half a tank of water? It the tank just filling half way with water and still have 6+ inches to the overflow?

Need more information.

In some cases, it may be as simple as changing the "Flapper" valve. That's the piece that opens when you flush. Replace it with a stndard flapper, and you will flush at 3-4 gals. of water. Do that if your tank stops about half way of using all the water on a standard high back tank.

11-20-02, 12:48 PM
Wildflower63
This horrible new toilet I got is one with the tank on the back. It does appear to be using all of the water in the tank when flushed. My complaint about it is there is hardly any water in the bowl when it is flushed. Should I go to Canada and buy a real toilet?

11-21-02, 06:57 AM
Walks On Water
Tell me one thing before you run to Canada.

Is there a small tube going from the filler valve to the overflow? This tube is the bowl make-up. It is there to fill the bowl with water while the fill valve fills the tank.

Next, is the toilet plumbed right. Also sounds like there is no vent to the roof. This breaks the vacuum after you flush. If this vent is not there it could create a vacuum and suck to much water from the bowl.

It is always hard to answer these questions when you can't be there to see for myself.

Good Luck

11-21-02, 09:34 PM
Wildflower63
I am really ignorant when it comes to anything mechanical. Yes, I did find a tube that looks like it is coming from near the top of the overflow. I grabbed my son and tried adjusting the flapper. It closes fast. It didn't work. It looks like the bowl fills with a bit more water if you hold the flush handle down. I'm completely confused!

11-23-02, 10:43 PM
cattywampus
Flower: Were you able to fix it with your son?

It sound to me like you need new innards. Not expensive, at Home Depot or somewhere, and not difficult to install.

Catty (who has run afoul of this before) frown roll eyes

11-24-02, 06:08 AM
Beano
The amount of water left in the bowl has nothing to do with how much water is in the tank...no matter how much water you put in the bowl, it will not retain any more water than the design of the toilet allows. To prove my point, try pouring a pitcher of water directly into the bowl...it won't raise the water level one bit.
I bought a new home 7 years ago & it came equipped with the new "water conservation" toilets, & I hated them, too. I was able to replace them a few months ago when a friend of mine put his house up for sale...he allowed me to exchange toilets with him. It was a pain in the rear, but it beat a 12 hr. road trip to Mexico.

11-24-02, 01:21 PM
Wildflower63
I'm heading to Canada!

04-05-03, 11:39 AM
JWooden271
If you hate how your toilet flushes, blame the EPA. If you want a better toilet, find someone who is having a moving sale!

04-24-03, 06:41 AM
Fritzzs
You would be surprised how many people are going to "home junk yards" and picking up the older "terlits"...
It getting pretting sad whe our government is telling us how much water we can flush..
Next, they'll be telling us (man, I've got to word this verrrrry carefullly) how much we are allowed to "move" thru this apperatus...phewwwww..made it....

04-24-03, 09:56 AM
Walks On Water
LMAO, don. Very well put. Thought I was going to have to do some Moderating here for a minute.

Sometimes there is an easy fix. Go to you local hardware store and get a "Full Flow" flapper valve and replace the one that came with your new toilet. It is this that is sometimes used to control how much water will pass.

Remember, I sad sometimes and I am not there to see it but this has helped some folks.

Now that we have lowered the amount of water we flush, did you know that most cities storm sewers dump in to the sanitary sewers systems when it rains. This overloads the system and dumps over spillways right in to the lake or rivers untreated.
05-05-03, 07:19 PM
JWooden271
There is one odd way to get a powerful flush with small amounts of water...
( I heard it from a guy at Lowes Wink )

- Detach the tank from the seat.
- Mount the tank near the ceiling.
- Use PVC pipes to reconnect the tank and seat.
- Drill a small hole in the handle and attach a chain/string.

Now gravity will assist in your flushing! The speed of the rushing water will counteract the quantity of the water.

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