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Who really became the first man to circumnavigate the world when the fleet arrived to his home country?
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07-19-05, 10:50 AM
Sailracer
It was Juan Sebastian de Elcano, a Basque.

07-19-05, 12:54 PM
mozart56
No, it was someone else. Smile

07-19-05, 03:30 PM
Georgia85
Is this a trick question?
Ferdinand Magellan led the first circumnavigation but died and was replaced by Sebastian del Cano...which I guess is the same person that Racer mentions....ok, you must have had a different history book than we did! Razz

07-19-05, 04:22 PM
mozart56
Georgia, everything you said is right S. de Elcano was the commander of the fleet,and was given the title.
Hint: someone on board really got around the world before the other ones. Smile

07-19-05, 05:57 PM
FredPuli
What? The first man to jump off ? The man who was at the pointy end when she arrived? Confused

[Question: Which bit of the ship travelled the furthest? ]

07-19-05, 07:19 PM
mozart56
According to my source this guy had a few thousand miles ahead.

07-19-05, 07:28 PM
Sailracer
I guess we are really splitting hairs here! You are probably refering to Antonio Pigafetta!

07-19-05, 07:42 PM
mozart56
Nope not splitting hair. The person I am talking about is anonymous ( as far as my source is concerned), but can be qualified logically as the first man to circomnavigate around the world.I will reveal my source shortly. Smile

07-19-05, 07:53 PM
Sailracer
"On September 6, 1522, Juan Sebastián de Elcano and the remaining crew of Magellan's voyage and the last ship of the fleet, Victoria, arrived in Spain, almost exactly three years after leaving. The expedition actually eked out a small profit, but the crew were not paid their full wages."

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07-19-05, 08:00 PM
mozart56
Congratulation for your "EOTM" award SR. SmileStill looking for someone special on board.
But I'll wait a little before I give up my source. Cool

07-19-05, 10:00 PM
babthrower
Yes, Sailracer, congrats, well done! Smile

I would guess the Malay slave Enrique who arrived back at his home in the Malay peninsula, having been captured there by Magellan in 1509. He arrived back in the Malay peninsula in 1519. But he didn't travel of his own accord, he was 'dragged' around the world! So I guess that's not right. Oh, well.

07-20-05, 06:27 AM
mozart56
You got it Babthrower. Cool

Source#1.

Source #2

07-20-05, 10:08 AM
Georgia85
Hrmph!
Magellan had provided in his will that his Malay interpreter was to be freed upon his death. His interpreter, who was baptized Enrique (Henry) in Malacca 1511, had been captured by Sumatran slavers from his home islands. Thus Enrique became the first man to circumnavigate the globe (in multiple voyages).
Hrmph!

Racer - congrats my man!

07-20-05, 10:29 AM
babthrower
Wouldn't that make a good movie, Georgia? Sad, though. The Portuguesse did not respect Magellan's will, though, and Enrique may have been murdered, no one's quite sure. Not a good reward for his faithful service. Frown

07-20-05, 11:37 AM
Georgia85
So true Bab!

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