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I want to know the Names of 3 separate townships (2 still towns) 2 in England, 1 in Scotland which have been the capital of England and Scotland Before London and Edinburgh
 
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What's a 'township'? Confused

Anyway, whatever it is, Dunfermline was once tha capital city of Scotland ("The King sits in Dunfermline toun/ Drinking the blude red wine" and all that)

The old capital of England is more difficult.When was England created? Under the Romans the capital of Britain was Colchester. In the days when Wessex existed as a kingdom the closest we had to a capital was Winchester.If we think of Alfred being a ruler of the whole of England, once the Danes had cleared off, then Winchester would've been the capital of England . As to a second thingy, how about York?
 
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3/3 Fred well done
I did read on the Web that there was an old Kingdom Capital to the east of Edinburgh Question.. Did this pre-date Dunfermline?

Haddington I think? Its in that area Roll Eyes
 
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Any source on this? Stirling had been an ancient capital of Scotland (Robert the Bruce held a parliament there in 1326).
 
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From WIkipedia -

A former capital of the Kingdom of Scotland, Stirling was a royal burgh until 1975.

The Church of the Holy Rude, which was rebuilt in the 1400s after Stirling suffered a catastrophic fire in 1405, is the only surviving church in the United Kingdom apart from Westminster Abbey, to have held a coronation. On the 29 July 1567 the infant son of Mary Queen of Scots was crowned James VI of Scotland here. Gun shot marks from Cromwell's troops during the War of the Three Kingdoms are clearly visible on the tower and apse.

During the War of the Three Kingdoms the Battle of Stirling (1648) took place in the centre of Stirling on 12th September 1648.
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The Anglo-Saxon kingdoms tended to coalesce by means of warfare. As early as the time of Ethelbert of Kent, one king could be recognised as Bretwalda ("Lord of Britain"). Generally speaking, the title fell in the 7th century to the kings of Northumbria, in the eighth to those of Mercia, and finally, in the ninth, to Egbert of Wessex, who in 825 defeated the Mercians at the Battle of Ellendun. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England#Anglo-Saxon_England)
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Three Kingdoms certainly implies three capitals, and since England once had seven kings at the same time, there were also numerous capitals there, too. So, once again, there are several right answers. Congratulations to Fred for getting the exact combination of right answers.
 
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And another... Add Perth Just how many were there? Confused
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King David I (1124-53) granted burgh status to the town in the early 12th century, and documents from this time refer to the status of the kirk there. Many of the records taken from this time were the result of the arrival of the Dominicans or Blackfriars whose House was established by Alexander II (1214-49) in 1231. In the 12th and 13th centuries, Perth was one of the richest trading burghs in the kingdom (along with such towns as Berwick, Aberdeen and Roxburgh), residence of numerous craftsmen, organised into guilds (eg the Hammermen [metalworkers] or Glovers). There was probably some decline in prosperity during the numerous wars of the 14th century. The town also carried out an extensive trade with the Continent, and examples of foreign luxury goods have been recovered from excavations within the town (eg Spanish silk, fine pottery from France; wine will also have been a major import, not least for the use of the Church). The main destinations were France, the Low Countries and the Baltic. Medieval crafts are still remembered in some of the town's old street names, eg Skinnergate, Cutlog Vennel.

The royal castle (on or near the site of the present multi-storey car park adjacent to the new council offices), was destroyed by a flood of the Tay in 1209, one of many that have afflicted Perth over the centuries. William I (1142-1214) restored Perth's burgh status, while it remained as the nominal capital of Scotland.

I make that 4 so far... Roll Eyes
and another!! Eek
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, the traditional capital of Scotland was at Scone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Scotland
 
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"...Just how many were there?"


Who knows? It was your question. You are supposed to know the answer(s).
 
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DG I had Dunfermline & Edinburgh and that is in the modern schoolboy history of Scotland

Scone was as far as my history goes a place where Scottish kings were Traditionally crowned ...Nothing more How the capital was there baffles me

So I'm sticking with a Proper town
and Fred gave the answer I wanted Smile
Need a student or graduate of history to sort this tangle out Roll Eyes
 
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What the heck is a "Proper town"? Are some towns there improper?

Yes, I noted that Fred correctly guessed the answers you were thinking of, but that doesn't change the fact that there were several other correct answers that you didn't know about.

No, we don't need "a student or graduate of history to sort this tangle out". What would have sorted the "tangle out" is a question whose answer you knew. Trivia isn't guessing which correct answer you are thinking of. You should do your research before you ask the question, not after. Students or graduates of history aren't necessary and shouldn't be. It took me less than five minutes to find out that there were multiple answers for this question. Is it too much to ask that you put in enough time to know the answer(s) to your own questions?
 
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I think just a slight change in the question would have worked.

"I want to know the Names of 3 separate townships (2 still towns) 2 in England, 1 in Scotland which have been the capital of England and Scotland Before London and Edinburgh"

Instead:
Could you name at least 3 towns in Scotland or England which have been Capital of either countries besides London and Edingburg?

Then your "behind" is safe. Big Grin
 
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Even then, Mozart, he should know all the potential answers, or at least almost all of them. Sometimes, a surprise sneaks in (It has happened to me.), but not on a regular basis.
 
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Of course if the answers should differ from the expectation, research for approval or disapproval ought to be ready or should engage.

That's why Sources are so important.
 
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