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What was Hitlers real surname?
I wonder what it translates to? Roll Eyes
and does any one know what Hitler roughly means?
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05-17-04, 07:31 PM
FredPuli
If you mean 'Schickelgruber'(or variants thereof ) then it never was his surname. However, British propagandists had great fun with it. It occurs in his family's past but Adolf had Hitler as his surname, even at birth.

While we are waiting Bedstor, I don't recall Hitler meaning anything; as you don't either and our side would have been keen to enlighten us it probably doesn't. It is not a pseudonym like Stalin or Lenin , named as 'man of steel' and after a river in Siberia of symbolic and emotional significance to the young writer, respectively.

Could make a verb, could hitler; a man who hittles; hittling sounds rather rural or local craft-ish. It's like whittling or flint-knapping, scrimshaw or corn dolly making.One of those ancient crafts that gets invented by visiting townees and inflicted on bemused villagers who've never seen it, still less heard of it ever being practised (because it never was but was invented by the Victorians Big Grin

Grubing a shickel of course (or is it gruss)ing misread ) is another matter. That really was a rural practice. Mind, when they church found out, it was outlawed and with it the sinful name of the practitioners. What people do with an alpenhorn is one thing; what they do with goats is another.....but... together.....

05-17-04, 07:42 PM
Sailracer
Bedstor, as far as I'm concerned I am not sure of the accuracy of the source; if this is what you are looking for, do you have a more reliable source? If so please post, thanks

"Adolf Hitler was born on April 20 1889 at Braunau-am-Inn, a small town near Linz in the province of Upper Austria, not far from the German border, in what was then Austria-Hungary.
His father Alois Hitler (1832-1903) was a minor customs official who had been born to unmarried parents. As a young man he used his mother's surname, Schickelgruber. In 1876, Alois took on his adoptive father's surname by having the church declare him the son of that man after his death, which was originally spelled Hiedler. Adolf Hitler never used the name Schickelgruber: this was a canard circulated later by his political enemies—as were insinuations that he was of Jewish descent."

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Adolf_Hitler

05-17-04, 08:39 PM
bedstor
Sailracer I have the same info as yourself

quote: born in Braunau, Upper Austria, the son of a minor customs official, originally called Schicklgruber. He studied at Linz and Steyr, and attended an art school in Munich, but failed to pass into the Vienna Academy. He lived on his wits in Vienna (1904-13), doing a variety of menial jobs. In 1913 he emigrated to Munich, where he found employment as a draughtsman. In 1914 he served in a Bavarian regiment, became a corporal, and was wounded in the last stages of the war



http://artzia.com/History/Biography/Hitler/

05-17-04, 10:05 PM
DorianGreyed
I disagree, Bedstor. SR's source says that Adolf Hitler's father used the name Schickelgruber.
"His father Alois Hitler (1832-1903) was a minor customs official who had been born to unmarried parents. As a young man he used his mother's surname, Schickelgruber. In 1876, Alois took on his adoptive father's surname by having the church declare him the son of that man after his death, which was originally spelled Hiedler."

Your source says that Adolf was originally called Schicklgruber.
"born in Braunau, Upper Austria, the son of a minor customs official, originally called Schicklgruber."

The comma after the word official indicates that the phrase is used to describe Adolf. That is how I read that passage.

05-17-04, 10:58 PM
bedstor
DG
Looking at what you observed makes me think if that person was alive now he'd have changed his name by deed poll(under UK Law) for some reason? perhaps the original was too big for a signature? Roll Eyes Too hard for his co-workers in the post office to spell?

05-17-04, 11:38 PM
DorianGreyed
What little I know about the German language seems to indicate that the Germans don't worry a great deal about the length of words.

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