What was the first 3-dimensional battle in history involving sea, air, and ground forces simultaneously?
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07-21-03, 10:42 PM
DorianGreyed
The first aircraft used were balloons, in about 1850, before the American Civil War. I would guess, then that it was one of the Battles in the Crimean War. Balaklava?

07-22-03, 07:26 AM
Kwll
sorry dg, try again.

07-23-03, 10:32 AM
Kwll
first hint:...WW2 Pacific Theater

07-23-03, 12:18 PM
John-1
Wake Island

07-23-03, 12:41 PM
Kwll
hmmm, I should probably have said simultaneously, however at Wake there was no ship to ship action.

07-23-03, 04:55 PM
John-1
On December 7,1941 submarines Triton(SS201) and Tambur(SS198) were patrolling submerged off Wake Island and didn't learn of the attack on Pearl Harbor till the next day. They continued the patrol and on December 11 at 0017 hours, Triton released 4 torpedos at an unidentifiable vessel (Probably a picket destroyer attached to the Japanese amphibious landing force) They heard a dull thud and all propellor noise from the object vessel ceased. These torpedoes were the first fired from a vessel in the US Pacific Fleet in World War II

07-23-03, 05:53 PM
Kwll
OK, but was not happening simultaneously with the other two nor was it the "planned" action of a battle group. This battle I speak of was planned as a 3 dimensional battle and went off that way.

07-24-03, 07:09 AM
Kwll
first hint: This battle took place near a site that has a ferric sounding nickname because of the large number of ships sunk there.

07-25-03, 10:16 AM
Kwll
The answer to this question was the First Battle of Guadalcanal. This was the first battle planned and executed on land, air , and sea. Source: "Dirty Little Secrets of World War 2 by James F. Dunnigan and Albert A. Nofi.

07-25-03, 03:40 PM
Sherasi
Kwll, you don't have to answer questions that are not immediately answered.. leave some "nuggets" for future answerers to find... you can just "pop" it and get notification if it is ever answered in your email.

07-25-03, 04:18 PM
Kwll
Sher thanks, I just wasn't sure if I was getting too hard or not...besides, I can always dream up more!

07-25-03, 08:31 PM
John-1
I don't think that a Japanese amphibious assault force was just wandering around in the Pacific Ocean and happened upon Wake Island as a target of opportunity; just at the moment it was being bombed by Japanese "Nells" launched from the Marshall Islands. The force consisted of 3 light cruisers,6 destroyers, 2 patrol boats and 2 armed merchantmen filled with assault craft. They must have had some kind of plan in mind

07-26-03, 09:06 AM
Kwll
John, you can think what you want but an engagement by one side or the other does not a battle make. All 3 aspects of this battle were not centrally coordinated which is a key component of the question at hand. I provided the reference its on page 334.

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If I remember correctly, one of the observation balloons used in the Civil War was lunched from an unmoored barge. The balloonist provided troop placement information for artillery. That seems to fit the requirements for a centrally coordinated 3-dimensional battle as asked for in the original post. - DG, 1.15.07

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