This Korean General was given sobriquet "The Shield of Seoul" because he defeated a vastly superior enemy along the Chong chon River. Part of his name is used today in joint US-Korea military exercises and his name is used as a form of a popular martial art. Who was he? +++++++++++++++++ 07-15-03, 09:08 PM Sailracer You are right, Kwll, it's a tough one; can't believe I spent two plus hours researching this with several answers to each point, but no connection! I owe you a toughie, you got me!
(so far! After a good night sleep, I may continue)
07-16-03, 02:03 PM mozart56 Just a guess: Kim Chong Won?
07-16-03, 03:01 PM Kwll mozart....sorry not even close.
07-16-03, 03:19 PM Sailracer The name I kept coming up with was Paik Sun-Yup around that time, but I cannot make the connection to your other citeria
(I believe you are looking for a North Korean general, anyway, right?)
07-16-03, 03:28 PM MilesWest General Kwon Yul perhaps.
07-17-03, 10:11 AM Kwll OK, first hint since you guys are way off. Happened before North and South were divided. Perhaps a lot more ancient than that. The martial art in question is Tae Kwon do but this is a style or form of it.
07-17-03, 10:21 AM Sailracer Are you referring to Kim Duk Ryung?; that was my first thought but the reference to Chong Chon threw me off
(could also fit Ge-Baek)
[This message was edited by Sailracer on 07-17-03 at 10:32 AM.]
07-17-03, 12:30 PM Kwll sorry sailracer, neither of those two. OK, last hint for a while....the last part of the joint US-Korean exercise name is "Focus Lens".
07-17-03, 12:51 PM Sailracer That Helped' Thanks. General Ulchi Mundok
07-17-03, 02:42 PM Kwll YES! General Ulchi Moon Duk was referred to as "The Shield of Seoul" after he defeated over 300,000 Chinese invaders along the Chong Chon River in 612 AD. His name is used as part of the name for the joint US-Korean exercise called "Ulchi-Focus Lens" and is listed as a 'kata' or form of tae-kwon do usually spelled in English as Ul-ji. Since Korean is a phoenetic language his name can be spelled many different ways. Great job sailracer.
07-17-03, 02:50 PM Sailracer Thanks, GREAT question!
07-18-03, 12:12 AM mozart56 I came across that name while researching.Now I took Tae-Kwon-dO for 3 years and it doesn't seems familiar.Would you have a reference site handy ,for more info?
07-18-03, 07:18 AM Kwll Sure mozart, I am somewhat famaliar with Tae kwon do having studied a different but related art called Kajukenbo. Here is a site that shows the origin and the form http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8602/forms1.htm. Not really sure what they mean by the word "form" but perhaps the easiest way to describe it...in Kajukenbo it would certainly be a "kata".
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