If the American people are really hungry for change as the conventional wisdom would seem to indicate; and as Barack Obama and everyone else seems to agree, why would there be any difficulty in defeating John McCain. Yeah, he'd be such a welcome change from George Bush!!

I think liberals would be smart, as opposed to impulsive, to elect Hillary Clinton for eight years with another eight followed by a more matured and realistic Obama. She was pilloried for suggesting that MLK was the spellbinding inspirational leader, but that it took an LBJ to implement most of the civil rights advances that were enacted into law. As Jack Nicholson told Tom Cruise, "You can't stand the truth!" There is still something to be said for experience. IMHO.

Why settle for one democrat when we have a potential for two 8 term liberal presidents in succession? Talk about potential for real change -in a progressive direction, SCOTUS, etc. I could die happy! at 101!

It's "You can't handle the truth"

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Thanks, Kendor. I knew when I wrote it that it didn't sound right.

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Originally posted by frankvan:
..in a progressive direction, SCOTUS, etc.

The liberal Presidents could be as progressive as Ronald Reagan and nominate people like Sandra Day O'Conner and Anthony Kennedy! Of course, for balance, they would have to mimic Reagan in nominating Antonin Scalia.

Frank you are not to die until you have converted me, and that may take you well past 101!

Converting you, 'fuse would never occur to me. I think you are a refreshing breath of reasonableness - if that's actually a word. God knows, on those rare occasions when I may be wrong - you give me pause to think!!In the words of that old song: "don't change a hair for me --"

The indications are that Democrats abroad, certainly in Britain, have gone for Obama in preference to Clinton. That's no surprise: Americans here are highly- educated, well -paid ones and that category of Americans is an Obama constituency. You never know, their one or two delegates might make a difference, the way things are going.

Incidentally why do the polls show Americans in that category, of educated and better- off, preferring Obama ?

"Obama's appeal is stronger among those with higher levels of education who are independents and Republicans than is the case for the other Democrats surveyed. This is particularly true among Republicans with postgraduate educations, among whom Obama enjoys a slightly more positive than negative image -- unusual for a Democratic presidential candidate."

Source: Gallup

Barack Obama's victory speech in North Carolina:

What did you think?

That's quite the best speech I've ever heard from a candidate who is fighting back. Sure, it had his usual rhetorical flourishes, but it was a lot more than simple rhetoric.Every phrase and every argument in it was so cleverly constructed that I began to wonder how anyone could be so mistaken as not to vote for him. I felt quite embarrassed at having doubted him . It's only afterwards that it's possible to see how the trick is done. It was like watching a great judoka. He turns the apparent strength of the opponent, the very thing which looks so dangerous, into a fall for the opponent.It takes a certain nerve to say, in effect, "you show that I've got strange and dangerous friends, that I've got weaknesses,that I'm unpatriotic, but that's just what we expect from you. That's the very thing I'm here to change !" and make it sound as though he is the true patriot, because a true patriot doesn't have to fight dirty but can stand above the abuse .That's a sign, he says, that he truly loves his country and that he is fighting to get it back to some golden age which his filthy opponents and their cronies have spoiled over the decades. And he adds , let's stop this stuff: I can unify.

Brilliant!

Fred, others may disagree, but I thought Obama's North Carolina speech was his best since the 1984 Democratic convention. Given the circumstances of his recent apparent weariness on the campaign trail a poor debate, weeks of attacks on his relationships with the Reverend Wright and William Ayers, and misplaced comments about Pennsylvania voters, brilliant may be understating his performance.

Both Obama and McCain are capable of campaigns with a positive focus. Unfortunately, "527 groups" and others beyond their control are likely to provide a more tasteless underbelly to their fall efforts. In North Carolina, for example, McCain asked GOP officials not to air a negative ad which attempted to pair Obama and the Reverend Wright with a statewise candidate. The state GOP, of course, refused.

Of all people, Carl Rove gave what I thought was great advice for the Obama campaign, especially if Hillary will step back. He advised that Obama should return to the Senate and provide some bi-partisan collaborative leadership to be able to provide concrete evidence that he is indeed a change agent. That is largely missing from his US Senate record.