You can use any definition of "worst" that you chose, dumbest, most self-serving, most obviously wrong, most unnecessary, etc. We don't even need your definition, just the statement, the speaker, and, if necessary, the context.
My choices -
“Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.” - George W. Bush
"So many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them." - Barbara Bush, speaking about the people driven from New Orleans by Katrina and housed in the Astrodome
"I will tell you this, though, every person in that convention center, we just learned about that today..." - Michael Brown, Director of FEMA, speaking to Paula Zahn on CNN, 2 days after that news was reported by several TV and print sources
"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." - Dick Cheney, June 20, 2005
"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think we really ought to go ahead and do it." _ Pat Robertson, speaking of the president of Venezuela "I didn't say 'assassination.' I said our special forces should 'take him out." "I was misinterpreted by the AP [Associated Press], but that happens all the time," Robertson said." - Robertson, two days after the above statement (Believe it or not, I watch that show. There is nothing else on at that time on broadcast except cartoons and soaps. He said "assassination.")
"To the editors, It has come to my attention that you recently published an article alleging that I blamed Hurricane Katrina on the selection of sexual deviant and New Orleans native Ellen DeGeneres to host the Emmy Awards. I must demand a correction to this libelous accusation. As I have stated repeatedly on “The 700 Club,” Hurricane Katrina occurred because New Orleans is the epicenter of sinful jazz music in America. As for Ellen “DeGenerate,” I have predicted she will meet her fate when the Good Lord creates an earthquake centralized directly below the studio where she tapes her talk show." If you are interested in the true reasons God unleashed Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans, a simple search of transcripts of recent episodes of “The 700 Club” (which air Monday-Friday) would have revealed the answer: New Orleans asked for this tragedy by advertising itself as a destination for jazz music. As every Christian knows, jazz music is sinful and lures people into eternal damnation. The connection is obvious." "In order to make clear His anger is directed at her, God will create an earthquake whose epicenter is directly below the stage where Ms. Degenerate is hosting her show at that moment. The guests, crew, and audience at such an event will likely perish, but since many of those people are likely sexual deviants and the rest choose to associate themselves with homosexuals, they are hardly innocents." - Pat Robertson, in a letter to DATELINE HOLLYWOOD ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 12-29-05, 12:57 PM juanruiz A very personal one:
A certain dean of a certain college at a certain university, who informed certain faculty:
"You have to stop viewing yourselves as teachers whose priority is education, and start seeing yourselves as entrepreneurs whose job is to generate positive cash flow for this university."
Any questions as to why jr is applying elsewhere?
12-29-05, 02:07 PM FredPuli " The Achilles' heel which has bitten us in the backside all year has stood out like a sore thumb": Andy King, the coach of English soccer team Swindon Town, describes some problem his team has ( I think ) Confused
2-29-05, 02:37 PM Scotty Anything coming out of the mouth of Howard Dean.
12-29-05, 03:16 PM DorianGreyed Excellent choice, Fred. That sounds like a quote from "Start the Revolution Without Me"
Duke d'Escargot: I warn you gentlemen, I am not to be trifled with. To pull the tail of a lion is to open the mouth of trouble and reveal the teeth of revenge biting the tongue of deceit.
12-29-05, 03:51 PM frankvan 'I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family. Geo.W. Bush
12-29-05, 04:42 PM Professor "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005
12-29-05, 07:10 PM frankvan "We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." Bush --Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005.
12-29-05, 07:22 PM DorianGreyed I didn't mean for this to become a Bush-bashing. I'm sure that someone can come up with quotes from athletes or celebs that belong here.
Please let this one be the last of the many Bush statements -
"It seemed like to me they based some of their decisions on the word of -- and the allegations -- by people who were held in detention, people who hate America, people that had been trained in some instances to disassemble -- that means not tell the truth." - George W. Bush, transcript in a press release dated May 31, 2005. - WhiteHouse.gov (By the way, I saw that press conference in the Rose Garden. He actually said what the press release says he did. You'd think that someone on his staff would have fixed it.)
12-29-05, 07:56 PM DorianGreyed "Don't cheerleaders all over America form pyramids six to eight times a year. Is that torture?" - Army Spc. Charles Graner's attorney in the opening arguments at Graner's courtmartial. Graner was sentenced to 10 years. He will be dishonorably discharged when his sentence is completed. He also was demoted to private and ordered to forfeit all pay and benefits.
12-29-05, 08:22 PM babthrower Originally posted by FredPuli:
" The Achilles' heel which has bitten us in the backside all year has stood out like a sore thumb"
No wonder they couldn't play very well. Eek It's amazing they could even stand up!
12-29-05, 08:24 PM babthrower
quote: Originally posted by frankvan: 'I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family. Geo.W. Bush
Oh, putting it there is not so tough. It's keeping it from sliding off that's the problem. Frown
12-29-05, 08:28 PM DorianGreyed "I'll tell you what. I've been in combat. I've seen it, I've been close to it... and if my unit is danger, and I've got a captured guy, and the guy knows where the enemy is, and I'm looking him in the eye, the guy better tell me. That's all I'm gonna tell you. The guy better tell me.
If it's life or death, he's going first." --Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, who never served in the military, talking about his experience as a journalist in South America
"Hmmm, time to buy." --Fox News Anchor Brit Hume, sharing his "first thought" following the London terrorist attacks as he eyed the low futures market
"Last night, we showed you the full force of a superpower government going to the rescue." --MSNBC's Chris Matthews, on Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, with a completely straight face, Sept. 1, 2005
"You simply get chills every time you see these poor individuals...many of these people, almost all of them that we see are so poor and they are so black, and this is going to raise lots of questions for people who are watching this story unfold." --CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on New Orleans' hurricane evacuees (Katrina seemed to affect different people in different ways.)
Dr. Howard, Dr. Frist, Dr. Dean
"Get some devastation in the back." --Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, to a staff photographer as he posed for a photo op while visiting tsunami-ravaged Sri Lanka, Jan. 6, 2005
“I question it based on a review of the video footage which I spent an hour or so looking at last night in my office,” he said in a lengthy speech in which he quoted medical texts and standards. “She certainly seems to respond to visual stimuli.” - Senator and physician Bill Frist on Terry Schiavo. Medical Examiner Jon Thogmartin, who performed the autopsy, concluded that…her brain was about half of normal size when she died. Thogmartin says her brain was “profoundly atrophied” — and that the damage was “irreversable.” He also says, “The vision centers of her brain were dead” — meaning she was blind.
"You think people can work all day and then pick up their kids at child care or wherever and get home and still manage to sandwich in an eight-hour vote? Well Republicans, I guess can do that. Because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives." --Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean
"I think with a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court, you can't play, you know, hide the salami, or whatever it's called." --Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean, urging President Bush to make public Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers's White House records, Oct. 5, 2005
12-29-05, 08:30 PM babthrower Originally posted by DorianGreyed:
"You'd think that someone on his staff would have fixed it.)"
Transmission problems?
(The bulge)
12-29-05, 10:20 PM DorianGreyed "I could do it. I'm a really good camper. I can sleep on the ground. ... There are many, many good people who have gone to prison ... look at Nelson Mandela." - Martha Stewart on her 5 month prison sentence. Mandela was imprisoned for 27 years before emerging to lead the African National Congress, the liberation party he led to victory in South Africa's first all-race elections in 1994.
12-29-05, 10:30 PM honilov Scotty...
It is time for him to go to the other side. Hell is waiting for "Tookie".
12-29-05, 11:03 PM mozart56 "Most importantly, you'd expect PhD scientists, who, adjusted for IQ and education, probably have America's worst career prospects, to be delighted that the next generation will be hobbled. Consider a 30-year-old soccer player. What hope can he have of twenty more years of collecting a paycheck unless a Tonya Harding follower comes along to break the knees of all the 15-year-old soccer players? Similarly for biologists. A 35-year-old, $35,000/year postdoc's best hope for a long-term job is the mental crippling of young people so that they can't conduct experiments successfully."
Philip Greenspun of Harvard, oct-22-05
12-30-05, 01:53 AM babthrower "I'll tell you what. I've been in combat. I've seen it, I've been close to it... and if my unit is danger, and I've got a captured guy, and the guy knows where the enemy is, and I'm looking him in the eye, the guy better tell me. That's all I'm gonna tell you. The guy better tell me. If it's life or death, he's going first." --Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, who never served in the military, talking about his experience as a journalist in South America.
"I could do it. I'm a really good camper. I can sleep on the ground..." Martha Stewart
My god! Eek
Put the two of them together, and send them to the Middle East...What an awesome force! Your boys will by home by Valentine's Day.
Or just put the two of them together and send them ... someplace.
12-30-05, 10:10 AM FredPuli
quote: Originally posted by babthrower: Originally posted by FredPuli:
" The Achilles' heel which has bitten us in the backside all year has stood out like a sore thumb"
No wonder they couldn't play very well. Eek It's amazing they could even stand up!
They are not alone. Here's Nicky Butt, a player with a top soccer ( "football")) team, Newcastle United, saying it how it is :
" ..if you keep looking backwards in football, you'll fall flat on your face."
And here's a mystery of the game from Andy Gray, ex-player and now TV commentator:
" He's gone down like he's been felled by a tree "
Perhaps soccer players aren't built like us ? (And those comments are only from this week Roll Eyes )
12-30-05, 10:26 AM newnickname "I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down." Bill Bennett
"If Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.'" Bill O'Reilly, to the people of San Franciso after military recruiters were banned from schools there
"If you'll look at my lovely FEMA attire you'll really vomit. I am a fashion god..." Michael Brown
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It is time for him to go to the other side. Hell is waiting for "Tookie".
???????????????????????????????????????????????? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 12-30-05, 01:11 PM Koz "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach. It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry." ~Louis Farrakhan
"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city. And don't wonder why He hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for His help because He might not be there." ~Pat Robertson
12-30-05, 01:17 PM DorianGreyed Good ones, Koz. Farrakhan usually supplies a few each year, and Robertson almost once a week, at least lately.
12-30-05, 01:39 PM Koz yup, 2005 sure was a good year for Pat Robertson quotes.
"Is it right to call for assassination? No, and I apologize for that statement. I spoke in frustration that we should accommodate the man who thinks the U.S. is out to kill him." – Pat Robertson
12-30-05, 01:54 PM babthrower "...if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city. And don't wonder why He hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for His help because He might not be there." ~Pat Robertson
Tremble, tremble! Eek
12-30-05, 05:30 PM honilov Scotty, I thought you understood that I was referring to the 'worst statement of the year'. You made that statement. Remember?
Smile Wink Happy New Year.
12-30-05, 06:12 PM babthrower You're right, Honi.
Nominated for worst statement of the year: Scotty's
12-31-05, 12:29 PM Scotty Too damn bad. He went. He was received. True statement. Wink Farewell Tookie! Happy nightmares.
12-31-05, 01:15 PM FredPuli I, for one, can't see anything wrong with a statement that Hell is waiting for Tookie. If you are one of those Christians who believes in Hell and you take the view that Tookie, old gang leader and murderer that he was, had not done enough to redeem himself, then Hell was indeed waiting for Tookie.
What is said to be so offensive about it ? Why is it 'worst' ?
Nothing in the statement is as offensive as the fact that the State left him alive, but under the threat of death by execution, for 26 years before executing him. Time for him to go should have been set at 25 years before now, not this year
12-31-05, 01:21 PM newnickname I think, if you're a Christian, you're not supposed to be able to decide who goes to Hell or not. It's the Big Guy Himself who is meant to figure out who's done enough for redemption.
"Can Canada really be considered our 'friend' anymore? As someone whose family comes from Canada, a country I grew up loving as a child, it pains me to ask the question. That said, what other question can be asked when the Canadian government not only willingly allows Islamic terrorists into their country, but does nothing to stop them from entering our nation." Former Bob Dole press secretary, Douglas MacKinnon.
12-31-05, 02:05 PM babthrower Yeah, Fred. As NNN says. All these 'nominations' are based on a personal position. The libs think warmongering statements are absurd. The cons think warmongering statements are obviously noble and patriotic and true, but Anti-Bush statements are mean-spirited. A leathery old atheist like me laughs at Robertson's threats. And a sincere Christian like Honilov thinks Scotty playing almighty judge is absurd.
It's all allowed, because Dorian said, "You can use any definition of "worst" that you chose, dumbest, most self-serving, most obviously wrong, most unnecessary, etc. "
12-31-05, 02:46 PM coldfuse "Mayor Nagin and most mayors in this country have a hard time getting their people to work on a sunny day, let alone getting them out of the city in front of a hurricane." - Senator Mary Landrieu (LA)
12-31-05, 05:17 PM Scotty
quote: A leathery old atheist like me laughs at Robertson's threats. And a sincere Christian like Honilov thinks Scotty playing almighty judge is absurd.
It is absurd that you say that I am playing almighty judge,when I just expressed that I thought it was time for Tookie to go to hell.
I didn't send him there,he bought and paid for his own ticket. Wink
12-31-05, 05:33 PM Scotty
quote: I think, if you're a Christian, you're not supposed to be able to decide who goes to Hell or not. It's the Big Guy Himself who is meant to figure out who's done enough for redemption.
Like we used to say in the Corps. We just send them there,and let God sort them out.
12-31-05, 06:05 PM babthrower
quote: Originally posted by Scotty:
Like we used to say in the Corps. We just send them there,and let God sort them out[/color].
That expression has an interesting history.
"The Cathars (a heresy against the Catholic Church that existed between 1150 and 1244) were ... centered in southern France and eventually wiped out in a ... Crusade, a war the Fourth Lateran [Papal] Council authorized in 1215. ...The Cathars practiced pacifism; they abstained from consuming eggs, meat, and milk, and they held all property in common. ... They considered [ sexual intercourse ] to be the worst of sins....A notorious legate named Arnoud, the Abbot of Citeaux, led crusaders against the last Cathar stronghold. When the papal troops asked what they should do with the captured city (since many Christians resided there along with Cathars), his instructions were, "Kill them all; God will sort out his own." The brutality of the Albigensian crusade haunted Europe for the next four hundred years; the Fourth Lateran Council established the Inquisition--that most notorious of medieval institutes--as a response to their heresies."
12-31-05, 06:27 PM DorianGreyed "They considered [ sexual intercourse ] to be the worst of sins."
The Crusaders should have left them alone. They would have died out eventually. How many Shakers are there today? 12-31-05, 06:47 PM Scotty
quote: ... They considered [ sexual intercourse ] to be the worst of sins
There must have been an awful lot of "sinners" in the bunch. How did they explain the population growth? Smile
12-31-05, 08:24 PM DorianGreyed Converts and adoptions. According to Wikipedia, as of 1920, there were only 12 Shakers left in the US, down from 6000-8000 at one time.
12-31-05, 08:31 PM honilov Scotty, make sure you shake Tookie's hand and tell him he was the center of a debate. Tell him he had popularity like Clinton. Big Grin
12-31-05, 08:35 PM Scotty
quote: Scotty, make sure you shake Tookie's hand and tell him he was the center of a debate. Tell him he had popularity like Clinton.
Maybe you should tell him yourself when you see him. Big Grin Tell him how fond you, and others here are of killers like him.
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a war the Fourth Lateran [Papal] Council authorized in 1215.
Yes, but it was the king of France who pushed for it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 12-31-05, 09:14 PM babthrower Converts and adoptions. It's interesting that the LDS made many, many converts during the Civil War.
I guess a lot of women were widowed or couldn't find mates, and decided their best chance for having children was to share a husband. Sort of an Old Testament solution.
12-31-05, 09:17 PM babthrower JR
quote: Yes, but it was the king of France who pushed for it.
What is your point? That the papacy had no complicity in the inquisition?
O.K. JR, if you say so. Roll Eyes
12-31-05, 10:25 PM coldfuse Can I repeat one DG already posted? It really is priceless if you didn't see it.
"I think with a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court, you can't play, you know, hide the salami, or whatever it's called." - Howard Dean
12-31-05, 11:17 PM DorianGreyed Sure, Fuse, steal mine. Everybody will probably like it now. Mad
01-01-06, 12:34 AM FredPuli
quote: Originally posted by DorianGreyed: Converts and adoptions. According to Wikipedia, as of 1920, there were only 12 Shakers left in the US, down from 6000-8000 at one time.
So who the heck is making all that furniture ? Confused
01-01-06, 01:17 AM DorianGreyed So far, Fred, you have the funniest post of the year! Big Grin
01-01-06, 06:15 AM RoverRoad I second newnickname's nomination for worst statement of the year:
"You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down."
Said by William Bennett, education secretary under Ronald Reagan and drugs czar under the first George Bush.
01-01-06, 11:17 AM babthrower Originally posted by RoverRoad:
"Said by William Bennett, education secretary under Ronald Reagan and drugs czar under the first George Bush."
Good gracious Aunt Matilda! Thank you for that attribution. When NNN posted it, I thought he was quoting our former (1975-86) premier, Wm. (Bill) Bennett. My reaction to NNN's post was Gasp! choke!
I really must pay more attention to U.S. politics.
01-01-06, 11:27 AM Scotty I have a question....... Did I win? I hope so,because I never win anything. Frown
01-01-06, 11:56 AM DorianGreyed It's now Scotty and Fred neck and neck for the funniest post of the Year. Big Grin
01-01-06, 10:39 PM coldfuse Scotty, everybody but me and LR thought all of your posts last year were funny.
01-02-06, 05:21 AM RoverRoad
quote: Originally posted by coldfuse: Scotty, everybody but me and LR thought all of your posts last year were funny.
To the contrary, I find Coldfuse, Scotty and Lighteningrodd's political views everything but funny...
01-02-06, 11:41 AM Rakuchild I'll throw a couple in- From that sad sack of skin who thinks she's the USA's queen mother-
"What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working very well for them." --Former First Lady Barbara Bush, on the hurricane evacuees at the Astrodome in Houston, Sept. 5, 2005
Why CNN may want to consider a 5 second delay-
"You simply get chills every time you see these poor individuals...many of these people, almost all of them that we see are so poor and they are so black, and this is going to raise lots of questions for people who are watching this story unfold." --CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on New Orleans' hurricane evacuees
And someone having a little problem with reality-
"If I would do another 'Terminator' movie I would have Terminator travel back in time and tell Arnold not to have a special election." --California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Nov. 10, 2005, after all 4 of his initiatves were defeated.
01-02-06, 02:53 PM Scotty
quote: To the contrary, I find Coldfuse, Scotty and Lighteningrodd's political views everything but funny...
Very wise indeed,RR. Very serious business here,and the majority of Americans tend to have the same views. Thats why the Republicans are running things now.
01-02-06, 03:22 PM frankvan Something to think about. Wink
Voting vs I.Q
01-02-06, 04:04 PM GarColga
quote: Originally posted by Scotty:
Very serious business here,and the majority of Americans tend to have the same views. Thats why the Republicans are running things now.
Great page Frank.
By definition, most people are of average or below average intelligence, and in my experience people of average intelligence are none-too-bright. The Republicans got these poor sods to vote against their own self-interest by dangling shiny objects before them, marginal issues like gay marriage, Ten Commandments monuments, abortion and whatnot. Hopefully by the next election enough of these people will at least have a dim realization that they have been had.
01-02-06, 04:24 PM babthrower It always saddens me to think how people allow themselves to be manipulated by slogans and empty symbols against their own self-interest. I think of the many young men who volunteered to fight in defense of their country, or so they were led to believe. They were praised to the skies as they suffered the physical and emotional damage of war. But those who came home with long-term damage found that once they had been used, they were cast aside and forgotten.
If such wars were in defense of one's country, we would all fight -- men, women, even children fight against the enemy when one's homeland is invaded. But usually wars fought on foreign soil are not in the interest of the average soldier -- the ones who supply the blood, muscle and bone. Or even of his family and friends.
01-02-06, 04:25 PM Scotty
quote: Something to think about.
Oh come on,this is laughable. Like people are going to believe this. Roll Eyes
From DG's link.
quote: Last week we published a list that purported to show the IQs of states voting for George Bush and Al Gore in 2000. Alas, we were the victim of a hoax: no such data exists. By way of apology, here are two very crude ratings of states' intelligence—and how they voted.
01-02-06, 04:28 PM Scotty
quote: But usually wars fought on foreign soil are not in the interest of the average soldier -- the ones who supply the blood, muscle and bone. Or even of his family and friends.
If this is the case,then why do the majority of the troops (not just Officers) support staying in Iraq until they think that the job is completed?
ps, I fought with the blood and muscle guys,and I did not find this to be true at all
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A link within the above link gives the following statement:
Last week we published a list that purported to show the IQs of states voting for George Bush and Al Gore in 2000. Alas, we were the victim of a hoax: no such data exists. - The Economist
I had to check; I felt that the figures looked odd. According to that chart, the average American isn't a smart as the average American. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 01-02-06, 05:08 PM FredPuli
quote: Originally posted by Scotty: If this is the case,then why do the majority of the troops (not just Officers) support staying in Iraq until they think that the job is completed? .
When will they think that the job is completed? When they are told so by their commanders.They do not make up their own minds. They are not paid to decide. They are paid to follow orders and to do. If their commanders say 'Right,the job is done' that may involve the most grotesque stretching of the meaning of the word 'done' and a reassessment of the word 'job', but 'done' is what the 'job' will be Wink We can already detect a lowering of expectation as it is, with the word 'victory' falling out of use. We are now being told not to expect a lasting democracy, as we in the West understand it.Never mind. It'll take a year or two before there is any collapse, by which time we shall be saying that the Iraqi people have thrown away what we gave them, but it's not our fault just theirs. (A goodly number of the 'democracies' that we British left behind, in countries that we had ruled, soon turned into dictatorships or one party states and/or fell to inter -tribal warring and power struggles, but that was not our fault, was it...? )
01-02-06, 05:33 PM Scotty
quote: When will they think that the job is completed? When they are told so by their commanders.They do not make up their own minds. They are not paid to decide. They are paid to follow orders and to do.
Thats right! They are ready and willing to do just that. I guess the rest remains to be seen.
01-02-06, 06:51 PM frankvan On the other hand, here's another link within the original one concerning the Economist retraction.
"i was bored last night, so curiosity got the best of me and i decided to see if there was a correlation between %bush voters and %college grads by state (nerd!). so i found out each state's %Bachelor's degrees from the census and ran it--indeed there was a negative linear relationship between %bush voters and %college grads (R = -0.71)-- which means, the less % of college grads, the more % bush voters. DC had the highest % of college grads (42.5%) and the lowest % of bush voters (9%); West Virginia had the lowest % grads (16.1%) and a relatively high % (56%) bush voters...... Interestingly the last 14 ranking states in grads (<22%) were all bush winners [many 55-60+% voted for bush), and 11 of the top 14 ranking states in grads [>30%) were kerry winners."
"Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything." : Frank Dane.
01-02-06, 07:24 PM babthrower
quote: Originally posted by Scotty:
If this is the case,then why do the majority of the troops (not just Officers) support staying in Iraq until they think that the job is completed?
This is my point, scotty.
I had said:"It always saddens me to think how people allow themselves to be manipulated by slogans and empty symbols against their own self-interest."
They are not fighting invaders of their homeland. They are fighting for people who want to control the world's oil supply. These people don't themselves fight, they send others to do the dirty, dangerous part. Then they reap the rewards.
01-02-06, 09:24 PM coldfuse These are not on the "worst statement" list!
"To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool." - Charles Spurgeon
“To acquire knowledge, one must study; but to acquire wisdom, one must observe.” - Marilyn vos Savant
01-03-06, 05:46 AM Scotty Frank,Don't you realize that your statistics mean "nothing"? What are you doing,grabbing at straws to make yourself feel better about voting for the "loser"?
01-03-06, 07:47 AM GarColga
quote: Originally posted by Scotty: why do the majority of the troops (not just Officers) support staying in Iraq until they think that the job is completed?
Military Times Poll finds high morale, but less support for Bush, war effort
"Support for President Bush and for the war in Iraq has slipped significantly in the last year among members of the military’s professional core, according to the 2005 Military Times Poll."
quote: Originally posted by Scotty: Frank,Don't you realize that your statistics mean "nothing"? What are you doing,grabbing at straws to make yourself feel better about voting for the "loser"?
Scotty, I do realize that statistics mean pretty much whatever one wants them to, but I wonder if you can understand that some of us feel proud to be identified with what you call the losing side. History will eventually decide which of us was on the wrong side, and history sometimes takes a while. Wink
01-03-06, 11:56 AM DorianGreyed Getting back to the topic -
"It is still 2005. President Bush was only inaugurated for his second term less than five months ago. Most Americans think it's crazy to begin the next presidential election this early. So do I. Since I have not decided to run, I don't think I need to speculate about my prospects." - Arizona Sen. John McCain on whether he's running for president in 2008. Speculation continued throughout the year. (This one isn't as obviously a candidate for worst statement now, but should be in the next two years.)
"What sense does it make for the U.S. to punish Cuba for denying freedom to its citizens by ourselves denying Cuban citizens the freedom to travel to our country? We ought to take every opportunity available to expose Cubans to the freedom and liberties of our country. Besides, our baseball team is better than their baseball team." - U.S. Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., decrying decision by the Department of Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control to deny visas for travel to the United States to the Cuban baseball team. (Dec. 15)
"I have never used steroids. Period." - Rafael Palmeiro when testifying at a March 17 hearing on steroids. Less than two months later, Palmeiro tested positive for the anabolic steroid stanozolol and received a 10-day ban from baseball.
"Therapy can be a good thing; it can be therapeutic." - Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez
"When you can get a discount at Denny's, it's time to retire." - Charles Barkley, discussing the retirement of 41-year-old Karl Malone
Matt Lauer: "Pain at the pump. Gas prices are going sky high. I paid $2.94 a gallon over the weekend to fill up the car." Katie Couric: "It’s ridiculous. I had to take out a loan to fill up my minivan. It’s crazy." — Exchange at the top of NBC’s Today, August 15. Couric makes about $15,000,000 a year
"As a matter of fact, I was talking to my friend Laura, who sings on the record, and we're both getting to the point where we want to start families. We're convinced that if we have children, we're going to do everything in our power to make them gay. Like maybe drinking a lot of extra soy milk while she's pregnant, or anything that would work to make that happen. I'd just rather have a really sharp, interesting, smart gay son than some big dumb hetero meathead." - Moby 01-04-06, 11:13 AM FredPuli
quote: Originally posted by DorianGreyed:
"As a matter of fact, I was talking to my friend Laura, who sings on the record, and we're both getting to the point where we want to start families. We're convinced that if we have children, we're going to do everything in our power to make them gay. Like maybe drinking a lot of extra soy milk while she's pregnant, or anything that would work to make that happen. I'd just rather have a really sharp, interesting, smart gay son than some big dumb hetero meathead." - Moby
Moby ? Is this Moby Dick?
01-04-06, 09:11 PM Rakuchild Close FP. The singer Moby was born Richard Melville Hall. I've heard on the radio that he goes by Moby because he's a descendent of Herman Melville. He's well known for his passivism and his innovative music.
Back on topic-
"I am not going to give you a number for it because it's not my business to do intelligent work." --Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, asked to estimate the number of Iraqi insurgents while testifying before Congress, Feb. 16, 2005
"Now tell me the truth boys, is this kind of fun?" --House Majority Leader Tom Delay (R-TX), to three young hurricane evacuees from New Orleans at the Astrodome in Houston, Sept. 9, 2005
01-19-06, 11:02 PM Vanguard1 An oldy but a goodie. Sorry it's not from recent times, but it I think it accurately parallels modern day:
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
In all fairness, props go out to the man -- Julius Caesar:
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar. "
And one from our leader..for once I agree with him.
"Fool us once, shame on me, fool us twice...we won't get fooled again." -- GWB
01-21-06, 04:26 PM Kelleygirl Speaking at a fund raiser --- "This is an impressive crowd - the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elites; I call you my base." G.W. Bush
Hey, he was telling the truth for once.
01-22-06, 05:50 AM RoverRoad You know what makes it even worse KelleyGirl? He probably didn't write that him self. It was probably written by a speech writer and passed by several sensors before Bush and them all agreed that that would be the right thing to say.
01-22-06, 11:09 AM Kelleygirl Just makes me wonder how anyone who makes under say $80,000 a year could ever vote for this guy and think that he's out for them.
12-24-06, 01:43 AM DorianGreyed It's time to pick one and only one statement for 2006 as the dumbest. Post your pick. No reason is necessary. (But I am sure that some wil give reasons anyway. Roll Eyes)
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