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To the extent that I've been able to stand it, I've been watching the Sotomayor hearings. I couldn't watch much of the first day, when the august Senators spoke numbingly to their respective bases; but the questioning on day two has been interesting. Being a proud Agno/Atheo-American of Caucaso-Judeo heritage, I have some certainty that my opinions are worthy.

Much is made of the "empathy" trope; in fact, I've written about it in disagreement with President Obama. More is made of the "wise Latina" comments. And whereas it seems as clear as fine crystal that Judge Sotomayor's decisions have been based on existing law (and that, as far as I can tell, she's far less of a judicial activist than Scalia, Roberts, Alito, whose opinions are full of rationalization that have nothing to do with law), I do think there are interesting questions at hand.

Why is it that the Supreme Court, charged with interpreting and applying law, so often provides diametrically split decisions? Why is it nearly always predictable on which side of a case a given Justice will come down?

Clearly, "the law" isn't clear. If it were, there'd be no reason for judges. Even more clearly, people look at a set of facts and draw different conclusions. Invading Iraq was a brilliant idea, it was the worst decision any president has ever made. It's made us safer, it's weakened us tragically. Universal health care is a right, it's a privilege. Deficits are necessary at the moment, they will send us to ruin. Senator Kyl asked Judge Sotomayor if she'd ever made a decision for which she hadn't found a legal basis but relied, instead, on her "heart." (The context was his derision at President Obama's statement that 95% of the time the law gives you the answer, but 5% of the time you must rely on your gut, or heart, or whatever body part is most appropriate.) No, was her answer. As, I'm certain, would be Justice Thomas's regarding his lone dissent in a recent 8 - 1 court decision.

In saying what he said, and in her comments about her gender and ethnicity, President Obama and Judge Sotmayor were stating the obvious. "Obvious," however, and "uncontroversial" are far from the same thing. Nor, as we see hourly in our political discourse, are complex points -- ones that can't be reduced to five words and stuck on a bumper -- regularly submitted to deep thought. When the law is less than black and white (stop for a red light, go on green vs. "unreasonable" search and seizure, for example), people will differ. There's the 5%: when you must apply judgment and insight. Which comes -- ta da! -- from one's background and experiences. Hardly, it seems to me, the bailiwick of liberals any more than conservatives. And yet, here we are, listening to drivel from our elected officials. (Some of whom, it should be said, don't even try to hide the fact that they're applying a double standard.)

There's an implication, here, that others have described better than I: white Christian heterosexual maleness is the "norm," the baseline, the objective standard. Neutrality. It's only those who differ from those descriptions that have prejudices or "agendas." And yet, Antonin Scalia and David Souter, both of whom are in the preceding categories, reliably disagree almost always. Maybe we need to add "conservative." Guess so.

What poppyphallus!

We are who we are: the sum of family, life experiences, genetics, upbringing, schooling, uncountable other influences. To say otherwise is to deny reality; even dumber, perhaps, than insisting our planet is 6000 years old. If two highly educated and intelligent Justi can look at a case before the Supreme Court and come to opposite conclusions, how else to explain it, at least in part, than by preconceptions and prejudices, by their singular world-view? And why the assumption that the only people who assess facts based on the totality of their experiences are, by definition, non-white, non-male, non-Christian, non-heterosexual, non-conservatives? It's simply a foolish implication.

The difference between Sonia Sotomayor and the other justices now sitting is that she goes into it with a far greater judicial record than any of them had when nominated. It is, in fact, apparent, that she is a judge's judge. She's like my dad was: an applier of relevant law to the facts at hand. She's the opposite of a judicial activist. If, off the bench, she's said some controversial things, they most clearly are NOT reflected in her cases. Nor ought they be considered as controversial as some claim.

If the definition of judicial activism is going beyond law to advance an agenda, and if one measure of that is the striking down of existing laws and statutes, then the current court's conservatives are far more activist than the liberals. I'm probably not the best judge of the validity of such a standard; nevertheless, it's simply false on its face to claim that there is a class of people -- any class -- who, by default and definition embodies a form of intellectual purity from which all others diverge.
 
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Exactly, Sid. One of the best examples that the Constitution isn't clear on some things is the two "separate but equal" cases. ( Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education) If the Constitution was clear, then either Plessy was wrong in 1896 or Brown in 1954. There can be no other reason for those two decisions other than the Constitution (and the law) is not always clear. That, as you state, is why we have a Supreme Court. Not one of the 7 Amendments passed between 1896 and 1954 dealt in any way with the facts of either case, yet Brown's unanimous (9-0) decision ended Plessy's (a 7 to 1 decision) standing;* somehow, all nine of the SCOTUS justices found reason to repudiate Plessy. I repeat that the Constitution did not change in any way that affected Plessy, yet a unanimous decision erased that ruling from established law. What else could be behind Brown's decision other than nine SC Justices thought differently in 1954 than seven SC justices did in 1896 with regard to the Constitution's (specifically the 14th Amendment) intent and meaning?

Quite obviously, events in a judge's life are a large part of how she or he comes to a decision.


*In looking up Plessy's numbers, I found this.

William Rehnquist wrote a memo called "A Random Thought on the Segregation Cases", when he was a law clerk in 1952, during early deliberations that led to the Brown v. Board of Education decision. In his memo, Rehnquist argued that "I realize that it is an unpopular and unhumanitarian position, for which I have been excoriated by 'liberal' colleagues but I think Plessy v. Ferguson was right and should be reaffirmed." He continued, "To the argument… that a majority may not deprive a minority of its constitutional right, the answer must be made that while this is sound in theory, in the long run it is the majority who will determine what the constitutional rights of the minority are."

It is no wonder that the Republicans loved him and put him on the SCOTUS and eventually made him the Chief Justice. I further note that Rehnquist was basically on both side of stare decisis, using establish law to support cases when it favored his personal views, and ignoring it what it didn't. I don't recall any on the Right speaking out about his personal views affecting his legal opinions.
 
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"It shocked me, though, and I found it disturbing, almost comical, that he directly asked her if she had problems with her temperament..." Legal experts' views on the Sotomayor hearing

Possibly the committee members are just lousy (or lazy) job interviewers.
 
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Maybe this hits the nail on the head - Hearings Reflect Broader Struggle. Republicans on the committee know they can't block Sotomayor; they are instead playing to the gallery - making sure that the various right-wing pundits on Fix News don't yell at them for being softies. Some of their comments are pretty crass, though - The GOP's got some 'splainin' to do on race.

They can't show Sotomayor to be a panty-waist, affirmative-action liberal on her record as a judge - Judge Sotomayor and Race — Results from the Full Data Set. She actually seems to be something of a judicial hard-ass, too - My Interview with the Man Who Spent 16 Years in Jail Because Sonia Sotomayor Denied His Appeal.
 
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nnn: I think you're right to a large extent. I doubt these hearings ever change a Senator's mind. Rather, they are a showcase for them to play to their bases.

The fact is she seems much more a centrist than Republicans have a right to have hoped for. More irony.
 
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Big surprise - the firefighters turn out to have more sense than the politicians trying to use them;

'It was Ricci's chance to stoke the fire, but he smothered it instead. "That's beyond my legal expertise," he demurred.' Firefighters but No Brimstone.

Many critics of Sotomayor have stressed how much work the guys (are they all guys? Smile) put in on the disqualified test, and how one has dyslexia. Wasn't that an appeal to Eek empathy?

(What are they doing with pencil-and-paper tests for firefighters anyway?)
 
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(What are they doing with pencil-and-paper tests for firefighters anyway?)

Actually, there is a very real need for written tests in the fire department. Temperatures, different chemical reactions, hazardous material knowledge, and various substance flame points are just a few things that don't really pop into mind when one thinks about what a firefighter needs to know, but they are necessary. Since these tests were for promotions, there is also a great deal of departmental regulations that needs to be known, not unlike any supervisory position.


The Wikipedia article below isn't a long read, but should be an eye-opener for those who don't know much about being a firefighter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighter

2008 Figures

Law Enforcement Officer Deaths (in the line of duty) - 140
Firefighter Deaths (in the line of duty) - 114
 
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