Anyone knows why we can't remember something we KNOW we KNOW...that it's on the tip of my tongue feeling....it's right there but just out of reach?

And if they do, can they also explain this:

Trying to remember the name of a particular concert hall in Paris, I was convinced it began with P.Searching through combinations of letters beginning P;per, par, por etc; I suddenly announced 'Garnier! That's it, the Salle Garnier' Note that salle and Garnier have no letter P anywhere.Yet Garnier presented itself in the middle of my listing P combinations .It's as though the mind's filing cabinet is being searched by one part of the brain, unconsciously, at the same time as it's being searched methodically (and on a false premiss)by another.
There is, or was once, a concert hall in Paris called the salle Pleyel but it was not the one I was trying to think of.It was that which had set the brain looking for P, perhaps

Happens to me all the time. I attribute it, and most everything else, to rampant senility. That tip of the tongue feeling, as in Fred's case, is invariably wrong, and as long as it persists it seems to prevent the right name or word from revealing itself. It seems to me that the correct name, etc. will pop out, unbidden, a day or two later when no one is looking for it.

so you're saying I'm senole?

I just find it a weird phenomenom because like Fred said you generally even know what letter the word starts with..you just can't get it....when this happens I generally remember it hours later when not even trying to remember it..all the sudden it just pops up in my head

I think, (though I'm not absolutely sure of anything he is saying ) that Fred was explaining that often he is convinced that the word on the 'tip of his tongue' begins with a certain letter, Kitty. Later, he finds the word, and he sees it doesn't have that letter in it at all.
Now, this happens to me all the time, too. Daily, in fact. Should I be reassured that it happens to the great Frank too, or concerned that he puts it down to senility? The fact that I find his posts articulate and convincing would, in that case, only be further evidence of my own senility.

Of course not. The fact that some of you youngsters experience the same thing must mean that my diagnosis is either wrong or applies only in my case. I tend to think that at my age one is either somewhat senile or already deceased.

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Originally posted by frankvan:
The fact that some of you youngsters...

Oooh, I just love it when you call me the "Y" word, Frank.
Eat your heart out, Babs.

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Originally posted by dg:
I think, (though I'm not absolutely sure of anything he is saying ) that Fred was explaining .....

Indeed either I'm the literary heir to the Reverend Charles Lutwidge Dodgson or you've been away from England and the English too long, dg

Dean Swift had the right answer to this senility question.He noted that if he ever forgot his hat when he was 20, all would smile benignly and say that his absence of mind was the product of youthful exuberance and enthusiasm for life.When he did the same at 60 all would shake their heads sadly and say his absence of mind was the product of a brain decaying into senility."What," he asked, " was provenly different, apart from the hat itself?"

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Originally posted by FredPuli:

Indeed either I'm the literary heir to the Reverend Charles Lutwidge Dodgson or you've been away from England and the English too long, dg

Nope. I was just checking you were paying attention.

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Originally posted by kittypal:
Anyone knows why we can't remember something we KNOW we KNOW...that it's on the tip of my tongue feeling....it's right there but just out of reach?

Some memories are made "out of reach" by physical causes. Other memories are made "out of reach" by angels, for what reason I do not know, although I suspect that they want us to pray to make them available.

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Originally posted by tsaeb:
Other memories are made "out of reach" by angels, for what reason I do not know, although I suspect that they want us to pray to make them available.

Ah, that's all we need to do, is it, tsaeb? Curiouser and curiouser!

dg: It is one thing for angels to be mischievous, but when they are carrying out God's orders. . . .