I thought I'd see how well this goes. I'll post some music to experience and you'll try it and post telling me what you thought of it, good or bad, whatever. If you guys want to hear more new and interesting stuff from me, I've got tons to offer and I'll post more on a regular basis. You'll be sure to find all kinds of stuff so don't think you'll be left out. You WIIL find something that flat out facinates you, I guaruntee it! Also, if you'd like some specific suggestions of styles, genres, bands, sounds, eras, etc, I'll try to see if I can recommend you anything too. I'll be sure to make you interested. Lots of great stuff out there.
The band I'll start this with is Dredg. Very interesting band. I think most of you guys may enjoy it. They kind of remind me of Tool's unique dynamic (you know, the weird structure and patterns.) Makes for some really interesting listens. I heard about them maybe a year ago and thought they were interesting, but it wasn't until more recently when I saved their song Same Ol' Road about a month or two ago that I really started to enjoy them. They've got interesting videos like Tool, too (although not as dark and scaryish.) I may even buy one of their albums eventually. Also, make sure to avoid their official website unless you're really daring. Trust me.
So here's the music to try. These are some that I've found to like the most:
If you liked it, but you thought it was a little too heavy in parts, I'll suggest some Mars Volta to you. Might like that more. I think they have the same Toolesque dyanmic which I compared Dredg to. They're softer and more atmospheric though. ******************************************************8 10-21-04, 12:17 AM carmen621 Are you going to do this regularly?
Cool
10-21-04, 12:25 AM jusork Yeah, I hope so. People will need to be responsive though. If people want to tune in here and hear stuff, I'll keep going.
So are you listening?
And is there any direction or sound anybody would like me to focus on or recommend from next time?
10-21-04, 07:10 PM carmen621 What exactly is your, uh, mission? To show people different music? Music that not a lot of people know about or what? Or just any kind of music, common and uncommon?
As far as listening, I got on last night late and didn't want to wake anyone, but I'll give it a try soon when I'm not irritated. Big Grin
10-21-04, 08:09 PM jusork
quote:Originally posted by carmen621: What exactly is your, uh, mission? To show people different music? Music that not a lot of people know about or what? Or just any kind of music, common and uncommon?
All that! Music exploration in general. I'll probably have both popular and unpopular stuff. Popular is pretty big so some stuff that's popular some people probably haven't heard of so it won't be popular for them. Or maybe they've heard of it, but they didn't have the initiative to try it. Some people may know it already, some may not.
You got it. Whenever you have time.
10-25-04, 03:56 PM honilov 'Same Ol' Road' has an okay beat but the video is weird. Overall, I didn't dig it very much. Wink
'Of The Room', I needed to open the file. Some music files smells trouble for me, so I just read the lyrics.
10-25-04, 05:40 PM juanruiz Don't mean to hijack jusork's thread, but for those who like someting a little earlier, e.g., 1532, here's a nice little ditty:
10-25-04, 06:17 PM jusork Thanks for giving them a try, Honi. The ram file of Of The Room might not require a download from you if you didn't try it already. I think I'll be putting up some stuff you might like more later if you guys want me to continue. By the way, Honi, have you checked out the rap section lately?
Thanks, Juan. Hijack all you want. I liked it. Is this related to the music in my first post somehow or is it a completely different suggestion for us to listen to? That'd be considered acapella, right? And were you able to hear Dredg? Your one of those that I'm particularly interested in thoughts for this from.
10-25-04, 09:20 PM honilov Juan, what on earth as they saying? It probably would have been nice if I knew what they were saying. I sorta liked it. Smile
10-26-04, 02:36 PM juanruiz Sorry Honi, honey. I guess a translation of some kind is in order.
Roughly:
He is handsome and good, neighbor, my husband. There were two women from the same village Said one to the other "Do you have a good husband?" He is handsome and good (etc) He doesn't argue or hit me, he makes the meals, he feeds the chickens. And I take my pleasure. He is handsome and good (etc) Neighbor, it's to laugh at. When he feeds the chickens while they cry co co de etc. Little woman what is this? He his handsome and good etc.
The humor in this song is subtle. While he is the perfect husband, she is being unfaithful to him ("I take my pleasure.") What's there to laugh at? It's the irony. The sound the chickens make (Co co de) is similar to the coocoo's song. The coocoo is the symbol of cuckoldry, because it lays it's egg in another bird's nest.
10-26-04, 05:10 PM honilov Thanks Juan, those are very interesting lyrics. That makes the song even more better. Honestly, I do like it. Smile
10-27-04, 04:41 AM Ritzmar Here is a translated page, which is more or less all I could find. Your translation is excellent, JR...did you get it from merely listening to the song? If so, you did extremely well! Your post sent me to my books, but virtually no mention of Passereau. Nothing in Britannica and virtually nothing in the Oxford Companion.
Jusork, originally the term a cappella meant 'in the style of the church/chapel', meaning unaccompanied by instruments. Originally referring only to sacred music it later came to mean any purely vocal music, sacred or secular.
Cantata is voices and instruments combined.
Sonata (sonare 'something sounded') originally instruments without voices.
PS I really liked 'Same Ol' Road', thanks for that, Jusork... Wink
10-27-04, 07:17 AM juanruiz Thank you, Ritz. Actually, I sang it in a madrigal group many years ago. The director never explained its meaning; I was in high school at the time, and he may not have known or decided we should not know what it was really talking about. Passereau, along with Jannequin and Sermisy, pretty much rests in the shadow of Roland Lassus (Orlando di Lasso)when it comes to 16th century French music, so I'm not surprised you didn't find anything about him.
10-27-04, 10:54 AM Ritzmar JR, I feel that your director knew rather more than he was letting on about the subject matter of this madrigal! I suspect that, although you are correct and Lassus, Vittoria, Weelkes, et al were giants to eclipse the lesser composers (I was actually very fond of music of the Renaissance period many years ago-I still am, but now am involved in other things most or the time) I think that perhaps living slightly earlier and having such a brief life with only a tiny output of songs are important factors also in Passereau's obscurity, excellent as this one undoubtedly is.
10-27-04, 12:29 PM juanruiz Wow, you have to be Renaissance buff to know Weelkes, who himself sort of rests in the shadow of Byrd, Morley and Dowland. To my way of thinking though, there was no better master of word painting.
10-27-04, 06:01 PM jusork Wow, thanks Ritz. And another thanks for the listen.
10-28-04, 03:13 AM Ritzmar And my thanks to you. There are some sparkling minds on this site, and as I have said before, I am constantly reminded of how vast and limitless my areas of lack of knowledge really are! Teaching six days a week as I do leaves little time for serious listening, as my musical batteries are burned out by 9.00 pm, and I just want to flop down with a glass of wine or malt and watch an hour's drivel before going to bed.
I have forgotten how Weelkes sets his words to music, JR. I will put that task on the same list as 'Canzoni'!
10-28-04, 08:24 AM juanruiz Ritz, two examples which come to mind are "Thule, the Period of Cosmography" and "As Vesta Was from Latmos' Hill Descending."
10-29-04, 04:58 AM Ritzmar Thanks, JR. "As Vesta Was from Latmos' Hill Descending" I think comes from "Triumphs of Oriana", a book published at the end of the sixteenth century. I am sure I have heard this along with several others from the collection. If my memory serves me right various composers of the time were asked to contribute...was it dedicated to Elizabeth? Must check that one out!
10-29-04, 08:36 AM juanruiz That's right, Ritz. A collection of madrigfals in honor of Queen Elizabeth by some of the best madrigalists of the day. Thomas Morley was the editor. Another of my favorites there is John Bennet's "All Creatures Now Are Merry-Minded." Almost all end with the line "Long live fair Oriana," but the collection was not completed until after her death. The late pieces end "In heaven lives fair Oriana."
10-29-04, 10:04 PM carmen621 Jusork's music exploration with his suggestions: Dredg Jusork...hmm... Video was Toolesque. I couldn't get the first vid, got the second. Didn't like the voice much, and it was kind of repetitive. The music didn't do anything for me, didn't move me, and it was kind of dredgy....ha. I'm funny.
Give us some more. What else you got?
10-30-04, 03:26 PM jusork When you say you couldn't get the first video, which one do you mean? Neither clip for one song would work or did you only click on one of the clips for each song?
If the one you listened to was Same Ol' Road, I think the video makes a lot more obvious sense than most Tool videos do. You know there this guy whoose eyes, mouth, and nose are all seeled closed, then they open up, then finally, his strings come off and he radiates his energy out to become free. You see him running freely and not so constrained like he was before. And then he runs so fast into the city, he becomes a radiating ball of light flying into the sky until you can't see him anymore. I get the impression it has something to do with liberation from something.
And I also say Of The Room has an obvious meaning, too. A penguin in a city and a jungle. I think it's about being out of place and just lost. And notice how when he gets back to an artic climate, he freezes into an ice block. And I'm not sure what the significance is, but that lady who's looking for the penguin is clearly autistic...
Oh yeah, I've definitely got plenty more stuff. Get ready. I'll put up another soon.
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