Hi all, I have taken the plunge and put a copy of the WinXP upgrade on layaway at Walmart! I want to make sure that I get the best possible installation of this upgrade, so my question is this, is there a "best" procedure for making sure that the upgrade "takes" as well as possible? Any ideas as far as settings and so forth? If possible, I would appreciate it very much if anyone has a step-by-step procedure that they have found works out very well all around, (if thats even possible, lol), and would share it with me to use as a guideline. I will have a friend here with me with who is Microsoft certified if he's available when I install the upgrade, but I'm sure there are ideas out there that he wont be aware of. please feel free to contribute anything you think might be relevent. Thank you for anything anyone can provide!
chris ********************************************************** 11-13-02, 08:35 PM Tom_G If you want my opinion, I would get the FULL install. The FULL install alows you to install without having to have a current version of windows running, but you can also use it as an upgrade. 11-14-02, 02:45 AM ivnj What are we upgrading from?
ivnj ********************************************************** 11-14-02, 09:46 AM Murray S. Howdy:
I wouldn't even consider an upgrade.. clean install all the way regardless of the OS you are upgrading from.
Upgrades just seem to compound problems in the original OS.
Murray ********************************************************** 11-14-02, 11:46 AM Tom_G
quote:Originally posted by Murray S.: Howdy:
I wouldn't even consider an upgrade.. clean install all the way regardless of the OS you are upgrading from.
Upgrades just seem to compound probles in the original OS.
Murray
I agree with Muuray. Upgrades cause a lot of problems in the new os, especially if the current on has problems.
Buy XP Pro full and do a clean install. ********************************************************** 11-14-02, 02:46 PM ivnj An upgrade and a full CD are the same! Same files and same everything! The only difference is the upgrade requires a previous version!
Just cuz U buy an upgrade doesn't mean U can't do a clean full install! I baught an upgrade and wiped out my whole system so many times I couldn't count! I still managed to reinstall the upgrade! U don't have to have a previous installed! U can do it fresh even with an upgrade!
Just set your bios to boot form cd and install XP form there so no OS required! And then it'll say U don't have the proper whatever to upgrade from! U don't even need 2 CD Dirves!
Just take out the XP CD! Put your 95, 98 or whatever CD in the same drive! Then ask it to look at D: or whatever your CD drive letter is! Then say OK or Enter or whatever! It will verify the media and then just stick the XP CD back in!
Continue on or it will automatically ask U to reinsert the media if U don't right away! Then continue on and follow the steps whatever it says!
And U've got a new system with no bugs! Plus no full version cost!
And if U got no CD to use buy a good copy of Microsoft Windows 95 osr 2.1 version B oem which will work from
And $100 is the saving form a PRO upgrade versus FULL CD! Tack on $30 even for 95 and its still 70 cheaper and U can do a full clean install!
Not bad!
ivnj [This message was edited by ivnj on 11-14-02 at 03:10 PM.] ********************************************************** 11-14-02, 04:13 PM vansrme I am upgrading from 98se. I cannot afford the full version at all, and it would take forever to put it on layaway and get it out. I just want to make sure I dont lose anything off my Hard drive too. Which brings me to another question, I have been trying to backup my hard drive to my CD burner on a CDRW disk, but it will not work. I keep getting this message:
You do not have permission to open this file.
See the owner of the file or an administrator to obtain permission.
I do not understand why this happening, anyone have any ideas?
Thanks for the opinions about the upgrade, I wish I could afford the full version, but wouldnt that wipe out all my stuff on my HD?
chris ********************************************************** 11-14-02, 07:57 PM Murray S. IVNJ
But, you are doing a clean install correct?? I never said an upgrade cd wouldn't work, just NOT to upgrade the OS..
I have used upgrade cd's to do clean installs all the time.. Just NEVER used one to "upgrade" so to speak !!
Murray ********************************************************** 11-14-02, 08:44 PM ivnj TOM_G said he agreed with U and to buy XP FULL and do a clean install! I was just informing him and everybody else that U don't have to buy FULL to do a clean install! It's pointless and can be done with an upgrade CD also! I always end up doing clean installs cuz I run into 2 many problems if I doin't!
ivnj ********************************************************** 11-14-02, 10:23 PM Murray S. I agree totally.. If possible, the upgrade cd is the way to go and then use it to perform a clean install..
Murray ********************************************************** 11-15-02, 12:20 AM TomGL2 Vansrme, let's try to reduce the amount of confusion here. Ivnj has correctly pointed out that the "upgrade" and "full" versions of Windows XP are the essentially the same.
If no version of Windows is installed (i.e., the drive has just been erased by formatting, or Win 98 has been removed), and you're installing with the upgrade version, then at one point during the Windows XP installation, you'll be asked to insert your Windows 98 CD as proof of ownership.
If Windows 98 is still installed when you begin the installing from the upgrade version, this is considered proof of ownership.
"Upgrade" has been used in two different senses in the previous posts.
(1) "a copy of the WinXP upgrade" means the "upgrade" version of the XP CD (which expects a previous installation of Windows, or a Windows CD).
(2) "I wouldn't even consider an upgrade.. clean install all the way" means Murray would not install XP "over" Windows 98 (that is, upgrade from 98 to XP). Instead, he would erase the C: drive (or at least the Windows 98 installation), or install XP on separate partition or second hard disk. The rationale behind this is to avoid problems stemming from incompatible programs and drivers which were installed under Win 98. ********************************************************** 11-15-02, 11:13 AM Murray S. Tom:
Excellent explanation !! Well put !!
Murray 11-16-02, 07:21 AM vansrme Thanks for all the help people! I have taken XP off of layaway for now, until I get alot more info, and figure out a way to get my CD Burner to allow me to backup my hard drive as I asked about in my previous post. If I can do that, I may take the plunge. Thanks again!
chris ********************************************************** 11-20-02, 07:51 PM vansrme Well everyone, I have decided what to do with this situation. I am going to have win98se reloaded, as soon as I can, and have the HD partitioned in half, with XP on the other half. Hopefully the option to boot either way will be possible then, if I can ever get someone to do it for me since I have no idea how to do all of that. Thanks again for all the help and opinions!
chris ********************************************************** 11-20-02, 10:03 PM ivnj What's the point of partitioning the drive into 2? It just causes confusion especially registry wise! But if U must just make sure U install 98SE first! XP has built-in partitioning and dual boot so after U install 98SE XP will auto matically pick it up and Dual boot will automatically be setup! Other wise if U put XP on first and then decide to dual boot U're out of luck unless U use a comercial dual booter program like Partition Magic's Boot Magic! Microsoft told me so and MS can't be wrong since they make XP!
ivnj ********************************************************** 11-21-02, 08:05 PM vansrme ivnj, Win98se WILL be installed first, without a doubt, since XP is back on layaway, and if I can ever get my tech guy to get started, he will re-install 98se for me so I can start over, or who knows, I may decide to just go with XP, and drop any incompatible programs altogether. I am always changing my mind anyway, lol.
chris ********************************************************** 11-22-02, 04:07 PM Katanya2000 Call you interenet service provider and ask them for any recommendations they have to prevent you from having any downtime on your service BEFORE you change ANYTHING. I can't TELL you how many calls I get in a day after someone has upgraded or installed new software which changes or wipes their settings and then gets angry because it takes forever to locate and fix the problem. TRUST ME! CALL BEFORE!
Another thing you want to check out is make sure that the drivers for all of the hardware on your computer is Win2k compatible. (Only stuff that has come out recently will say it works with WinXP but if it's ok for Win2k, then it will work with WinXP) Most likely it will be, but Toshiba cable modems and WinXP often don't get along very well. Some older printers also have this problem. If it is going to be necessary, be prepared to upgrade your drivers BEFORE you make the change. Have the CD's ready, or download the drivers to a floppy if you no longer have the originals.
I do recommend to back up your hard-drive before upgrading, AS WELL AS writing down any user names and passwords stored in your computer.
Just so you know, simply upgrading does not wipe your drive...but it's Windows and in a Windows world you have to prepare for such incidents. I agree with the people above, though, save time and frustration by reformatting first and then install clean. ********************************************************** 11-22-02, 04:38 PM TomGL2
Microsoft told me so and MS can't be wrong
Man, it's hard to type when you're laughing!
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