Question:
What do you think of the idea of "reborn virgins"?

Choices:
Ridiculous - you've done what you've done, and have to accept your actions
Good idea - a way to erase mistakes in your past
Bad idea - a way to erase mistakes in your past
other (please post your opinion)

 

Costume jewelry. Cheap, but ....

A good, SAFE idea!

It may not erase mistakes in the past, but it can sure help keep someone from repeating them!

While I see your point TIE, couldn't they just stop having sex without the lie?

I am under the impression that most of our country has about 0 will power. In another forum is about how people are suing fast food places for "tricking them" into eating fast food multiple times a week, and making them fat. Aside from the obvious, another complaint was that they fast food joints offer 10 different children's toys, and you have to "go back again and again to get each and every one."

No you don't. Tell your kid no.

I disagree with the reborn virgin idea because you can't erase what you've done. If you want to stop having sex, then stop. You can't un-screw.

Chastity is always a choice.

Innocence can never be regained.

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No you don't. Tell your kid no.

I disagree with the reborn virgin idea because you can't erase what you've done. If you want to stop having sex, then stop. You can't un-screw.

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Amen Sista! On both points!

Being pregnant, I've already heard this joke about a million times:

What's the difference between a pregnant woman and a light bulb?

You an unscrew a light bulb!

Seems with the wealth of words available to us the concept would be better served with a more accurate description of the decision to abstain.
Reborn or Born Again Virgin seems to discredit the experiences of life, disregard partners both favorable and not, and make claim against reality.

Guess I understand the concept - been there, done that, but believe both life and language deserve something more than denial.

Well, the Catholics have their Confessional Booth... I guess the Baptist (or whomever )might as well have their "Born Agains"...
So, then again, if something dosen't fit your religion, re-write it....and it'll make you feel sooooo goooooooood....HOLY, HOLY, HOLY.........

Boy don't I wish....... j/k. I think that is ridiculous. People have to face the truth and live with the consequences of their actions. I had to, everyone has to.

donrent - I used to have a friend growing up whose father routinely changed religions depending upon what he wanted to do that his current religion didn't allow. They were only allowed to watch Christian movies, listen to Christian music, the girls weren't allowed to cut their hair or even wear lip gloss...but the father had two illigitamate children with girlfriends and ended up losing their trailer home because of gambling debt.

There are a lot of things in my history that I'd love to erase, but I can't. I wish I could, but I can't. Must be nice to be able to just erase unpleasantness from your life, huh?

Born again virgin.... absolutely ridiculous.

What I find even more unbelievable is that people can listen to people talk about this kind of thing without laughing themselves silly.

I have an ex-friend who thinks that you can erase things that happen in life. It just doesn't work that way. You gotta deal with it.

Totally absurd...Once you've done it you ARE NOT a virgin anymore NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can change your life and make yourself a better person, you can act differently and not give into temptation, you can act *like* a virgin and be good and kind and pure and whathaveyou, but the fact remains that once you have had sex, you are no longer a virgin. Nothing can change that.

Would someone who has been celibate for 20 years qualify?

Catty (who figures there is always hope)

reborn virgin? maybe i'm dumb, but i don't understand that phrase. how can a virgin be re-born? there are so many things that i haven't heard of. thanks to answerpool, i'm getting educated.

I know some single women who are born again Christians, once they found God they are no longer willing to consider sex outside of marriage, to where as before it wasn't an issue, so now they are "born again virgins". I think it's a nice, safe and smart idea, but let's get serious about referring to yourself as a virgin. FALSE PACKAGING.

Use are all completely mindless. Being a reborn virgin (as it is called). Is not about forgetting your past and your mistakes and it's not about lying to yourself or your future partners. It is a way to discover yourself all over again. I know people say when you have had sex then that's it (what's done is done), but why should it be? You are only what you believe you are. What about all the people that where just young and/ or stupid, the people too scared to stand up for themselves, with no self esteem to say NO (no matter how old they are). Everybody makes mistakes and sure when you've had sex you are technically no longer a "virgin" but why can't a women or a man choose who they lose their virginity to. Some people just go through with it for the sake of it - considering it "just sex" and then spend the rest of their lives regretting it. And say a women uses a fully grown sex toy on herself does that mean she's STILL a virgin because it's not covered in human flesh? Or did she "lose it" to a piece of rubber? and wouldn't a man (or woman) still be quite honoured to find out the person their about to marry has had 1 bad sexual experience (or even a few), regretted it, and then decided their next time will be with their husband (or wife). Instead of having 1 bad experience and sleeping with 50 more men (or women) to make up for it - wouldn't it be more honourable to find out your partner decided to wait for you after one bad experience instead of findig out she (or he) went on to sleep with double digits to make up for their first time. Isn't that still something that should be honoured. I'm not talking about people that have had loads of sexual partners (they have their own issues to deal with). Just the people that have made 1 (or 2) mistakes and now will save themselves for the right man (or woman). this is nothing that should be sneered at - we all learn from our mistakes, and the people who have made this mistake then realise that casual (no loving) sex is not for them and they now know they want to be in a loving, committed relationship before they have sex again. How would they have realised that without doing it first? There is a really fine line between being/ and not being a virgin. YOU just have to decide when it "officially" happens for YOU. XXXX

"...but why can't a women or a man choose who they lose their virginity to."

Generally speaking, they do.

"You are only what you believe you are."

I believe I'm wealthy, tall, thin, and have a full head of hair. Oops! I just checked my bank balance and a mirror. So much for that theory.

"I'm not talking about people that have had loads of sexual partners (they have their own issues to deal with). Just the people that have made 1 (or 2) mistakes and now will save themselves for the right man (or woman). this is nothing that should be sneered at - we all learn from our mistakes, and the people who have made this mistake then realise that casual (no loving) sex is not for them and they now know they want to be in a loving, committed relationship before they have sex again."

So only people who have had one or two sexual experiences qualify? Over that, and you don't get to "discover yourself all over again"? Who drew the line?

"There is a really fine line between being/ and not being a virgin."

Not really. It's generally fairly easy to see the "line". Prior to having sex for the first time, you are a virgin. After you've had sex once, you aren't. Most people notice when that transformation takes place. Even I can remember that far back. (SHUP, SR.)
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"...a fully grown sex toy..."

They grow ?!?!?

"Use are all mindless."

Is that a Chicago accent I detect?

The real issue is not whether people adopting an ethic of chastity can call themselves "Reborn virgins." It's whether or not they understand that it's utter sillyness to label themselves. Is it so hard to keep your morals about sex unlabeled and to yourself? Why go about trying to redefine words such that they fit your new found belief system?

Does the act of labeling oneself a reborn virgin actually assist the person of living up to the ethic behind it? Is it just an easy way for them to explain to new partners that they aren't interested in a sexual relationship? Does anyone really care if a 30 year old woman finally realizes that sex is important to her in a more than physical manner?

Having self esteem is typically enough to make a woman know that, with or without a label of "virgin", she is important and deserves a good and meaningful relationship or marriage.

It just seems like such "support group" type language. Women and men that use it sound hokey to many people - and those people may not be the mindless ones. How many "born again" types have lived a life of moderation before needing to be born again? That's the reason why many people think "born agains" are perhaps the biggest hypocrites of the world.