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Originally posted by hippolips:
I'll either sit this one out or vote for Mickey Mouse.

Is he running? Is Homer Simpson running? If Homer is , he'd be easily the most popular winner for us in Britain. He wins all those 'who is the greatest American ?' polls over here Anyhow, he could always be Vice President. The qualification for that is that nobody really elects you to anything,it seems to us, just like your cabinet members. (Don't remind our Prime Minister Gordon Brown: he was never elected Prime Minister in any public election and has steadfastly refused to call one, for fear of the result. He has enough ideas as it is )

Several links I have posted. A lot of news out about Hillary & none of it is in her favor.

While things are looking good for Barack Obama, one thing we've all learned about the Clintons. In a contest, you can never rule them out. They are extremely persistent and they don't give up easily. Still a good ways to go, time wise, before the next primaries roll around. I certainly wouldn't rule Hillary out yet.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Putin_vs_Clinton.html

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=24286

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/us/politics/15clinton...rPq2B0jQ2MUzk/+VdLWw

http://americanresearchgroup.com/

In a tie between Clinton and Obama , the super candidates would favor Clinton. Mark my words.

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Originally posted by mozart56:
In a tie between Clinton and Obama , the super candidates would favor Clinton. Mark my words.

Advisedly so! Some promises never get fulfilled. Some flashy performers turn out to be more "flash in the pan"!

I had an egg timer on it. It was actually what I said while watching her lose states on Super Tuesday... "I wonder if she can sue the DNC?"

It's insane and I hope people see it for what it is... dirty pool.

And while I doubt he'll say it, this is EXACTLY the crap that Barrack is talking about when he talks about the establishment manner of operating.

It's IS outrageous.

and how funny is it that she's trying to spin it that he won't debate her? They are having 5 debates over the next two weeks... outrageous.

Not having a working TV, I can't say what they did or didn't show or mention, but CNN.com and the Associated Press both mentioned the incident this morning, including the man's race, although why someone thinks that is important is beyond me. (Or maybe it isn't.)

LR, if you had spent as much energy investigating bush prior to either of the last 2 elections as you have Hillary, and posted your findings, things might be different today. I have to wonder why you didn't. (Or maybe I don't.)

DG-I haven't spent a whole lot of energy on this. The links were pretty easy to find.

As for President Bush, I do have some issues about him I want to discuss at a later time. My position will not be pretty. You never know DG...you & some others might actually find yourselves in an awkward position of defending the future former President.

"You never know DG...you & some others might actually find yourselves in an awkward position of defending the future former President."

Too late. I have already defended him the few times he did something right. It's amazing what happens when you are objective. You should try it sometime.

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Originally posted by DorianGreyed:
"You never know DG...you & some others might actually find yourselves in an awkward position of defending the future former President."

Too late. I have already defended him the few times he did something right. It's amazing what happens when you are objective. You should try it sometime.

I have NEVER claimed to be objective or open-minded...so why start now

Clinton faces daunting delegate deficit

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent

"WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton must win 57 percent of the remaining primary and caucus delegates to erase Barack Obama's lead, a daunting task requiring landslide-sized victories by a struggling presidential candidate."

The delegate math is getting tough for Hillary

Good news: The race for delegates may not end in a tie. The Democrats abroad have voted for Obama and are rewarded by sending two and a half delegates for him. A half?

How Much Damage Will Clinton Do Before She Folds?

Should Hillary do a Romney? Or is Obama being over-hyped?

Obama slams smear photo

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8667.html

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Should Hillary do a Romney? Or is Obama being over-hyped?

It's just my personal opinion but the so-called "momentum" that Obama's well-attended rallies are said to represent have also been compared to rock concerts or cult followings. I wonder if we aren't being swept up by mass hysteria and lofty platitudes skillfully delivered in almost hypnotic cadence? How well do we know this fellow?

It seems to me that the longer I listen to this charismatic preacher, the more I begin to question the sketchy message, or flimsy substance. He is a salesman. Not unlike some of the infomercial pitchmen, but selling himself rather than that cyclonic vacuum cleaner or juice extractor. He promises many of the things we would all love to see accomplished, but delivering hints only of the ability to bring legislation from concept to fruition. Can he do it? He has to overcome some of the powerful forces that will surely have opposing ideas as well as obstructive abilities. It is much easier to point out the flaws in any given system than to accurately predict their eradication.

Somehow, it also seems easier to be unduly influenced by the media attention 24/7 on headline grabbing assemblages of hysterical groupies, than by careful study of complex issues. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. IMHO.

"Public sentiment is everything. With it nothing can fail, without it nothing can succeed. Consequently, he who molds public sentiment goes deeper than he who enacts statutes or pronounces decisions. He makes statutes and decisions possible or impossible to be executed"
Abraham Lincoln,in the first debate with Senator A. Douglas, at Ottawa, Illinois, 20th August 1858.

America may be about to find out whether Lincoln was right

"Careful study of complex issues" does not win elections, Frank, at least if you make speeches which consist of little else.Obama does not, as lawyers say,condescend into particulars.(That's a fault in written pleadings). On internal affairs, Obama has set out what he would do.He hasn't costed it in public, save in the widest or most imprecise terms. A candidate who does more is unwise, indeed. Since their policies are almost the same ( spot the difference: at a guess, her healthcare plan would cost more than his) we may justly think this doesn't matter. On foreign affairs,to me the differences appear to be more words than substance.

Let's face it, the American public knows that policies in action cost them money, but they'll vote for anything, at any cost, if they believe it right.

Honest Abe may have been on to something.

Clinton had the capacity to mold public sentiment
Reagan had it in spades
JFK - same thing
FDR kept a nation together with it
Woodrow Wilson had it

LBJ couldn't find it if it was sitting on his head
Carter? He told us we had "mallaise."
George W. couldn't quite can some good raw product before it started to smell fishy.
Gerald Ford? George H.W.? Decent guys but they couldn't exactly move mountains.

Dick Morris, like him or not, has said that this ability is far more important than executive experience in a successful Presidency. If so, is Obama best suited for national leadership?