It would appear that our friends aross the pond are finally seeing the light on this hoax, commonly referred to as "Global Warming". Do any of our members from that part of the world have any insight into this...

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change...e-planet-819703.html

'The survey also reveals that most Britons believe "green" taxes on 4x4s, plastic bags and other consumer goods have been imposed to raise cash rather than change our behaviour, while two-thirds of Britons think the entire green agenda has been hijacked as a ploy to increase taxes...'

It seems that most think the taxes are a hoax, not climate change. They could be right. Of the minority that don't accept there's a problem with climate change (or, to be more exact, don't accept there's a connection between extreme weather and climate change), most are old...

'Just over a third of respondents (34 per cent) believe that extreme weather is becoming more common but has nothing to do with global warming. One in 10 said that they believed that climate change is totally natural.

The over-55s are most cynical about the effects of global warming with 43 per cent believing that extreme weather and global warming are unconnected.'

I guess they feel they won't be around, anyway, when things get really bad. My parents, by the way, living in the UK and long retired, do accept the idea that pollution is causing climate change. But they read a lot, and not just the funny pages.

Lighteningrodd, you say that it's a hoax, but on a previous thread you had little to back up that idea - Al Gore Being Sued For Fraud. Have you come up with something new?

The Independent is obsessed with 'green issues'.It has a strong 'save the planet' 'tree-hugging' editorial line.That's why it features this.

I (and , it seems, a lot of Britons) think that the government is using global warming and other environmental matters as a means of raising revenue.Nobody believes that the government is putting 2p (4 US cents) on a litre of fuel, to help the planet.The stuff costs £1-15 a litre (over $9 a US gallon) already and nearly two thirds of that is tax. Putting 7 cents on $9 isn't fooling anyone.

Likewise the annual fee per car is now set so that someone driving say, a big SUV, pays more each year than someone driving a regular car.This is pitched as a 'green' measure. The government can't explain how it will apply the extra money to saving the planet. Instead it tries to sell the idea that the higher rate is a deterrent to drivers of such 'polluting' vehicles and so a good thing.Who are they trying to kid? Someone who pays $55K to $90K for a Land Rover Discovery, which is certainly their second, third, or fourth car in the household, is not going to stop because they are paying another $200 a year for it.

It follows that we don't believe the expressed motives for other 'green' measures if they involve any charge or revenue element.And, once people think that, they become inclined to think that every time the government talks of pollution or global warming it is exaggerating to get us to pay the extra, to pay a tax imposed by stealth.

This government has a long history of 'stealth taxation' and fiscal dishonesty and the public now regard anything it says with cynicism.(Which may explain why its ratings are the lowest of any government in modern times)

None of this is to say that people in Britain don't think that some increase in global temperature is man made. What they do think is that businesses and this government try to profit from it.

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Originally posted by newnickname:
Lighteningrodd, you say that it's a hoax, but on a previous thread you had little to back up that idea - Al Gore Being Sued For Fraud. Have you come up with something new?

There's always something out there. But I already know you would take it with a grain of salt.

Just as I maintain all the info I see that promotes the Global Warming theory, I see nothing more than normal weather patterns taking place.