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Diamond
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Interesting how people are starting to see the fallacy of man-made climate change. Here is an article from the Guardian on a poll taken in Briton. Some surprising results. Seems that people across the pond are starting to question and have doubts on the issue, which they very well should.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jun/22/clima...ange.carbonemissions
 
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Apparently three-quarters think that climate change is happening. Over half don't think that our leaders can do or are doing enough about it. A quarter think it's too late do anything. Sixty per cent say that there are many scientists who have doubts.

LR, if you lived in Britain you'd know exactly what the real cause of concern is. Our government taxes anything on any excuse. They use the environment as their latest, fashionable, excuse. So, for example, they tax cars according to the vehicle's emissions,but the annual charge is payable even where the car is seven years old. Nobody seriously believes that this tax is for the environment or to affect climate change. What choice has the owner of an ordinary car,which is several years old, have? If they sell it and buy an ordinary new car, chances are that it'll be annually taxed at a higher rate, because it's likely to have emissions above the threshold for the lowest rate.

The government won't allow you to sell a house without your paying some hundreds for an inspection of it, and a report on how 'green' or 'non-green' it is. Nobody believes that this information has any bearing on its saleability or has anything to do with global warming and the environment. It's simply an excuse for the government to raise money.

Given that, and many other examples, you can understand why people are cynical about what their leaders tell them. They are convinced that climate change is happening. But, with good reason, they doubt that they are being told the whole truth. If it wasn't being used as an excuse for 'stealth taxes' you'd find that they'd more openly accept that not only is change happening (as they do accept) but that scientists who doubt whether man makes any contribution are very much in the minority.

The very latest wheeze is to force through the building of whole new towns. The government knows that local authorities would successfully refuse these. So the government declares the proposed new towns 'eco-towns' and by-passes existing planning laws. These towns are meant to be eco-friendly and a special case. Unfortunately for this argument, any new house built in Britain now has to be just as eco-friendly as any house in the proposed eco-town. The one proposed near this village is the very same town as was intended to be proposed under existing planning law (and therefore doomed to refusal).Simply by having it declared an 'eco-town' the developers now expect it to be built.

You may not be surprised to learn that people think that this trick of selling the idea as eco-friendly, to cut global warming, is not accepted as honest and is not believed.
 
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FP-"Apparently three-quarters think that climate change is happening."

LR-I will not deny it myself. However I personally believe climate change is totally natural and that the activities of man have extremely little to no bearing on it whatsoever.

FP-"LR, if you lived in Britain you'd know exactly what the real cause of concern is. Our government taxes anything on any excuse. They use the environment as their latest, fashionable, excuse."

FP-"You may not be surprised to learn that people think that this trick of selling the idea as eco-friendly, to cut global warming, is not accepted as honest and is not believed."

LR-Fred, these two statements say it all.
 
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A few months ago, some eminent scientists in Britain complained about the climate change brigade. Their own opinion was that the Earth is warming.It was also true that mankind was contributing to that warming.However, the extent to which man's activity contributed to that warming was not known. It might be little, it might be a lot, but it was not known precisely.

That view is the official view of our own Metereological Office.

It does the argument no good at all to have people scaremongering and exaggerating (as, to a limited extent, a British judge ruled Al Gore had done in his film ) and seizing upon claims and facts such as that animals and plants are now found further north than before and any and every warm winter, as some proof that mankind is causing warming or, in themselves, that these are proof of global warming.

It is interesting that the Ipsos Mori poll, cited in the Guardian link above, shows that the greatest cynicism was shown by those respondents who held a Ph.D. and those in income and social groups A and B. These people are likely to be the best informed, the most widely read and the most educated sections of our society.They are, by nature, or by experience, those who are most likely to be able to analyse information and draw proper inferences from it. No wonder then that they, of all people, don't take what the government wants them to hear as gospel.
 
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