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And the Shape, and the weight... (The weight???)

Size matters, so does shape under new postal rates
 
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So what's the problem? Our lot have already decided that an envelope that is thicker than a certain number of mm is to cost more than a thinner one but they've added the strange rule that a single sheet of paper in an A4 flat envelope will cost more than the same sheet folded in half and put in a smaller envelope. That does defy logic: the weight is almost exactly the same, and below the maximum for the lightest letter, and nobody could reasonably claim that a flat A4 cannot be read by the machines as readily as a flat smaller one. The Royal Mail handles hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of such letters every day and has never said that they are difficult to handle.They are in a standard, internationally agreed, format which is used every day by businesses of all types.

BTW, the US postal service has finally discovered the "forever" stamp Roll EyesWhat was the objection to that? (Have you got around to self-adhesive stamps yet ? WinkBig Grin) Britain's postal service cannot be smug about either. We've had both the forever stamps and the self-adhesive for years but we still haven't matched France.France is decades ahead of us. In France there are always little weighing machines in the post office . You put your letter or packet on,click for the destination (inland/Europe/ beyond ) and the machine shows the postage, accepts your money , gives change and issues the adhesive label which is the 'stamp'.In Britain, if you are lucky, you can find a machine to weigh the letter but never any chart to show what the postal rates are so you have to join the queue at the counter to have the transaction performed.

Of course, the real advantage of the French system is that it avoids your having to deal with the French bureaucrats who, allegedly, are there to serve you at the counter.Service is not a concept understood by most French public servants, but inventing excuses and creating their own, new,hitherto unknown rules out of thin air for not providing anything as 'Anglo-Saxon' as service most certainly is Big Grin It's no wonder that French was so long the language of diplomacy and French people such natural diplomats: they've had lifelong training in the art of negotiating anything and everything with stubborn, immovable, awkward, government representatives, starting with their own Smile
 
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Originally posted by FredPuli:
So what's the problem?


Yes that's what I thought. What's the big deal?
In Canada we have a slot at the counter, if a letter/small packet doesn't fit through that, because it's an awkward shape, then we have to pay excess postage on it.

And, I should add, all our people that work in the post office here are charming, helpful and friendly. Smile
 
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Originally posted by DorianGreyed: And the Shape, and the weight... (The weight???)


The weight always determined price. It is the size that makes the difference now. The US Postal Service can not sort larger envelopes in walking order for the carrier. Larger envelopes are only sorted to zip code and then the carriers has to manually sort them with other non machinable mail. The postal service is trying to encourage smaller envelopes to ensure faster delivery. Regular sized envelopes can be sorted in a house to house order. The carrier picks up the tray and it is ready to go. Mail always had a non standard surcharge for thickness. Anything too thick can not be automated which causes the mail piece to be handled several times. There is also a problem with people thinking anything can be stuck in a thin envelope and mailed. People mail keys, scissors, buttons, chocolate, jewelry, ink pens and various other items that get shredded. These letters stop in the machine and the letters behind it can get destroyed. It causes the machine to stop until a mechanic can pull the mail piece out, fix a broken belt or another problem. The weight and thickness always played a factor in the postage rate. They use a slotted card to determine price. The postal service wants 100% automation. Their goal is to deliver the mail, in one piece, as quickly as possible. I don't believe that average consumer will see a difference. Keep in mind that businesses have paid less for postage for years. They sometimes pay pennies for letter when the public pays 39 cents. Even though they mail in bulk, flat mail still has to be handled more than a standard envelope. Even though they presort first class mail, it still has to be separated and ran on a machine. I can forsee in the near future a standardized envelope for all mailings.
 
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The Direct marketing Association is upset, so the change can't be all bad!
 
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