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It has long been know that the actions taken by a President during his time in office, many times is not felt until he has left office. Here are some things that have happened since he left.

Here are just a few time bombs that have blown up since Clinton left office.

1) Shortly after leaving office the economy started sputtering.

2) The events of 9-11 having taken place just a few short months after he left office.

3) Corporate scandals are now surfacing. Enron, Global Crossing, World Com, TYCO, Martha Stewart, just to name a few items in the news lately. All of this stuff did not develop overnight. Some of these things have been several years in the making.

4) Let's not forget the famous pardons that he signed off on. Old news, yes. But have we really heard the last of that little scandal???

What other remnants from the Clinton Era will come back to haunt the country???
 
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Here is one.
He did more than anyone, with the exception of Nixon, to disgrace the office of President. His blatant abuse of power is disgraceful. We will never have the perfect President, of course, but Clinton was perhaps the biggest farce in the 20th Century!! eek
 
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Right on!!!History will eventually prove the Slick Willie was the greatest snake oil salesman that this country ever produced...bar none.
And his greatest legacy will prove to be that "Oral sex isn't really sex" and your kids will prove it by using this copout when you catch them "doing the nasty". wink roll eyes frown razz big grin
 
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Yankees 15:
Right on!!!History will eventually prove the Slick Willie was the greatest snake oil salesman that this country ever produced...bar none.
And his greatest legacy will prove to be that "Oral sex isn't really sex" and your kids will prove it by using this copout when you catch them "doing the nasty".

That depends on what the meaning of is is. I agree he was the worst because of the disrespect he had for the people as a whole and individually. Wasn't anything on 8 legs or less he wouldn't have sex with. I still wonder how he got reelcted. Very few admit to having voted for him.
 
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:: Rolls his eyes slightly ::

Please...

Clinton and Nixon didn't do anything out of the ordinary to their office. The only difference is, they got caught up in scandals. You know the "Oval Office"? Well, the "v" should be an "r" in reality! lol

If anything, Nixon did a lot of good for this country, such as ending the Vietnam War, for one. It's just too bad people only remember the bad.

You really want to see a lousy Presidency? Look at LBJ. Or, just look at Bush I and his sequel. And, I don't base my judgment on their public approval ratings, or the amount of smut about them in the tabloids.

Going to war does not make for a good leader, but rather, the reverse. Unfortunately, every American President who has ever been liked, has taken us into war. Yet, it's the mediocre, uneventful, peaceful administrations who seem to suffer the most abuse from the people. Go figure.
 
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Originally posted by Omega Raven: You really want to see a lousy Presidency? Look at LBJ. Or, just look at Bush I and his sequel.

Exactly. I'll second that.
 
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Having read the three-volume biography of LBJ I can definitely support LBJ for the most devious president of our time. But Mr. Bill far outstrips any other in disgracing and embarassing the United States.
 
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that Warren G. Harding's administration was the most corrupt in our nation's history. You can read about the Teapot Dome Scandal if you click here. Harding died before suffering the embarrassment of a possible impeachment.
 
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There's still those ugly rape allegations against Clinton. You can read the affidavit byclicking here. And, of course,
Clinton's repeated violations of the Constitution of the United States. Be prepared to wait on that one, it's quite long!

But since terrorism is a hot topic nowadays, Clinton did (and did not do) lots of things in regards to terrorism and the safety and security of the United States of America. (Let me make perfectly clear that the only ones to blame for the Sept. 11th attacks are the scumbags who planned and carried out those attacks. But many American politicians have done lots to aid the terrorists and help make America more vulnerable.)


Against the FBIs pleas, he pardoned 16 terrorists who were convicted of committing 100s of acts of terror against American interests.

Released 11 terrorists from prison on September 10th, 1999, just a day off, to the day, of the September 11th attacks!

Was generally soft on all terrorists.

Refused to pursue the Islamic fundamentalist terrorists who first attacked the World Trade Center in 1993.

Lifted the ban on the selling of our military's most sensitive and top secret communications equipment to known terrorist sponsor, Syria-again against the FBI's pleas not to do so!

As President spent more time chasing Bill Gates than Osama bin Laden. In fact, the only action he claims he ever took against bin Laden was when he launched a few cruise missiles at a bin Laden "terrorist camp" which actually turned out to be an aspirin factory! However, he only launched these missiles on the exact day, hour and minute that Monica Lewinsky was testifying to the Grand Jury in his perjury and obstruction of justice trial. Can anyone say "Wag the Dog"?

Sold China U.S. nuclear missile secrets knowing the Chinese would most likely turn around and supply that technology to terrorists-which they are now doing!

Experts in global terrorism have pointed out how he openly welcomed and embraced militant Islamic groups to the White House routinely for five years.

When the FBI wanted to shut down a terrorist front group Clinton wouldn't let them.

One of his own aides has said that Clinton ignored repeated opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist allies and is responsible for the spread of terrorism.

Clinton's own chief political advisor has said that he didn't care much about global terrorism.

Even the President of Russia has commented about how little Clinton cared about fighting terrorism.

CIA sources have said that the Clinton administration "didn't want bin Laden arrested."

After the Sept. 11th attacks one of the first things Clinton did was reconvene is famous scandal damage team in order to try and repair his image to make him look like he did something to protect America from terrorists.
 
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Right on again,John Galt...thanks for supplying all the gory details. big grin roll eyes big grin razz smile cool
 
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((Refused to pursue the Islamic fundamentalist terrorists who first attacked the World Trade Center in 1993

Don't you mean the F.B.I.? They were the "terrorists" behind that one. As for who their orders came from- who can say? But, doesn't it stand to reason that what they can do once, they can do again... and again... and again?

(see: "The World Trade Center Conspiracy" for this story)
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((Refused to pursue the Islamic fundamentalist terrorists who first attacked the World Trade Center in 1993

Don't you mean the F.B.I.? They were the "terrorists" behind that one. As for who their orders came from- who can say? But, doesn't it stand to reason that what they can do once, they can do again... and again... and again?

(see: "The World Trade Center Conspiracy" for this story)
http://www.answerpool.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=669605981&f=845604891&m=152602632



I can only assume you are joking, right? roll eyes

If you believe this garbage, you will want to leave some extra cookies for Kris Kringle this Christmas!!!
 
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John Galt-You should write a book. I'd buy a copy.
 
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John Galt-You should write a book. I'd buy a copy.


Who has time to write a book? I'm too busy reading (or in the process of reading) these:

Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside The Clinton White House

Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News (Lots of great stuff on how the media overlooked Clinton's problems. Written by an avowed--and honest[!] liberal!)

Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right (Great addition to above book on how the media is biased to the left! Written by an avowed conservative, so she pulls no punches!)

The Final Days: The Last, Desperate Abuses of Power by the Clinton White House (Author was killed on the plane that hit the Pentagon.)

Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton(Same author as above.)

The Strange Death of Vincent Foster: An Investigation (Conspiracy theorists will be glad to know that I personally believe that Foster was murdered--but while the White House clearly tried to cover up that fact, I don't think the Clinton's had him "whacked".)

Not directly related to Clinton, but still good books on current politcal leanings in America:

The Ten Things You Can't Say in America

The Terrible Truth About Liberals

The Seven Myths of Gun Control: Reclaiming the Truth About Guns, Crime, and the Second Amendment

Shakedown: How the Government Screws You from A to Z

Dependent on DC: The Rise of Federal Control over the Lives of Ordinary Americans
 
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Heck, John Galt writes a book with darned near every post! big grin But there is a lot of evidence there to back up his claims. It isn't the screwing that earns Clinton one of the worst status. It is his contempt for the people, his outragous lies - even for a politician, and his utter lack of pro US sediment.
 
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Clinton's legacy will be that of significant economic prosperity and the fact he was a liberal President that got the budget balanced after a long history of government overspending itself -- all this despite the often-used label of "democrat big spenders big government guys."

His legacy will also include his impeachment with the attendant suggestions that Presidential behavior and personal morality isn't important when it comes to leading Americans.

Cigars or saxophones? I think more will remember the former.
 
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Clinton's legacy will be that of significant economic prosperity and the fact he was a liberal President that got the budget balanced...


Don't tell me you believe the big lie of a "budget surplus"?
It's an accounting trick and nothing more.
 
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JG...I wasn't announcing what I personally think regarding Clinton's era...just how I think history is going to remember him.

Nevertheless, I DO find it interesting how we heard alot more from Alan Greenspan under the Clinton administration than we are currently hearing from him under the current administration.
 
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There are two main reasons that Bill Clinton achieved a budget surplus.

First of all he was fortunate to have Republicans in control of the house. They did not try to spend every penney of excess revenue like the Democrats did when Reagan was President. If the Democrats were in control of the House, there would NEVER have been a surplus.

Also the role of Alan Greenspan as was previously mentioned. He got the point across that if the budget was balanced, he would keep interest rates down to fuel the economy.

Bill Clinton always like to take total credit when in fact he had help from others. That is if there actually was a surplus. Many have always questioned if the Social Security trust fund was included in helping show the budget being balanced.
 
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Maybe two of you really believe all this, and the rest are conforming(animosity?)...Clinton ruffled to many feathers, which is not such a bad thing...

how bout this idea..."this is revenge/vendetta for President Clinton cutting back on government spending/waste/programs, also Big Business(he broke to many rules)...All they needed was an axcuse to turn on him"..

....somewhere closer to the truth....
no facts,no more than I'll believe your presumed/distorted facts
I probably won't reply
 
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