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Where can I get a list of the names of the people killed by jack the ripper? ansd in what order where they killed?
 
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The names, ages and dates ( all in 1888) are 1) Mary Ann Nichols (43)31st August 2) Annie Chapman (47) 8th September 3)Elizabeth Stride (45) 30th September 4) Catherine Eddowes (46) the same night. Elizabeth Stride was killed quickly but the murderer was disturbed when in the act of mutilating her; his killings got progressively more frenzied in time, with greater injuries and mutilation, and he went looking for this other victim apparently in frustration and being unable to satisfy himself.He had, seemingly, been in the the act of severing an ear when interrupted before. 5) Mary Jeanette Kelly (25) 9th November. This victim was grossly mutilated. The murders then stopped. You should be aware, incidentally, that serious writers here call the crimes 'The Whitechapel Murders' and seeking details under 'Jack the Ripper' is certain to lead to a lot of fiction and a lot of populist writing.The five victims named are the only ones on which there is, and was, universal agreement. It is always possible that the murderer killed before the first but these appear to be undoubtedly 'by the same hand' ( a left-handed one, actually!). They also fit a pattern found with such killers. They ended with the most frenzied and, interestingly, with the suicide of the man who is probably still the 'favourite' suspect nowadays, Montague Druitt, but that is a big subject for another time !
 
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Patricia Cornwell has a book out about the history and maybe final ID of Jack the Ripper. I found the book interesting and credible.
 
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Sadly Patricia Cornwell's book 'reveals' the painter Walter Sickert as the murderer someone who was first considered as a suspect in 1970,and since discounted, so her claim is not new.What is new is the vast amount of money and publicity which her book has involved. None of her premisses proves sound.It seems possible, at most, that Sickert was one of the hundreds of hoaxers who sent letters ostensibly from the murderer (600 letters survive). He did not paint a scene of a victim as found: if anything it is from a published photo from the mortuary. His mitochondrial DNA is not uniquely on any letter: even her own expert says it could be coincidence, her figures would show 400,000 people with that mitochondrial DNA in Britain and the figure could be as high as 4 million . There are several sources, paintings, letters etc to show he was painting in France during the murder period. The list goes on. See www.casebook.org for some more information on this.
 
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Jack the Ripper is often "credited" with killing Martha Tabram on August 7 1888.

http://www.geocities.com/ripper_archives/introduction

And this is a really good site that discusses a lot of possibilities about his victims and his identity. (My favorite is James Maybrick - I read a book that put forth a very convincing theory about him.)

http://britishhistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa082402a.htm

[This message was edited by Karrow on 04-18-03 at 01:09 PM.]
 
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James Maybrick is not as famous as his wife, Florence, who was convicted of murdering him with arsenic ( many have claimed wrongly ). He was 55 , a hypochondriac, living in Liverpool and with no known or suspected sexual perversion or criminal record who died 6 months after the murders stopped. He only became a suspect in 1992 when a scrap metal dealer in Liverpool, Michael Barratt ( name reported as Barrett), produced what he claimed were the diaries of Maybrick, showing him to be the ripper.Faced with various embarrassments e.g.the ink was modern,the writing had been retouched and improved with 'Victorian' flourishes, the details of some murders were identical to those given in some press reports but were wrong, the volume had pages torn from the front suggesting that the 'diary' had started as something else and the missing first pages had had writing giving away its original use and so on, Barratt made a signed confession in 1995 that it was a forgery made by his wife and himself. (Source www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers ) The recent history of this case shows that each 'new' suspect claimed to be the true ripper is ,amazingly, the subject of a book or newspaper serialisation with substantial amounts of publishers' money riding on it ! Even the name Jack the Ripper was coined by some journalist in the course of the contemporary press' own issuing of false information and hoax letters to keep life in the story !
 
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