Have you ever been talking with someone and you knew that something was going to happen to them, then it does?
Have you ever experience a premonition? Or was it simply a coincidence?

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06-14-02, 06:52 AM
Walks On Water
Some people will say WE are crazy, but I have had it happen more then once in this life time. I have even avoided a situation that would not have been good or may have been embarrassing on more then one occasion.

My Dad would tell me it was just my mind putting together available information and small pieces of memory in to a story that fit the occasion.

Being brought up in the last days of radio, you know, that thing without a picture tube, I have a very good imagination. I can see how one could just "Imagine something". Something kids these days know even know about.

I am now pushing 60, on the down hill side. It is still happening and I even tested it by making some small change in the story line, if you will.

I can still walk in to a room and know I have been there. I have written down things before they happen. I can not predict the futhure or know when this is going to happen. It is a spontaneous happening, triggered by a sound, smell, or something I see. I'm not ready for Prime Time yet.

Scary ain't it.

There to many coincidences to be chance.

See you or "The Otherside"

06-14-02, 11:01 AM
teeceeum
Wow, WoW! Does this happen often? I've had it happen, but not often and not always accurate. It happens with/to my wife a lot, but she usually can't pinpoint who it's going to happen to, just what is going to happen. The only thing she knows for sure about the person is that she knows them.
Have these occurences ever led you to step out of a race car?

BTW, I do believe these things happen and are not just coincidence. Maybe it's because I, too, sat in front of a Philco radio as a child.

06-14-02, 11:13 AM
LVLF
Sometimes things just pop into my head that really have nothing to do with anything that is going on at the time. Odd. Like one time I just glanced at a man, don't know when or why, and 'wife beater' popped into my head, and I know in my heart that that man, that stranger whom I happened to cross paths with for a moment, was an abusive, wife beater. It was the feeling that ran thru me that told me it was true, a horrible feeling and I didn't know what to do with it. I have, well I don't know what they are called- I am awake, out in public, once it happened while I was walking into Target, dept. store, and a picture flashed into my mind. Someone I don't know, standing in front of a counter, window at his back, sun streaming thru, very detailed vision. Now, of course this could be something from my past, a real possibility, but why? Why did this come to me in a wake state while walking into Target, rather than a dream state, and why at all. It means nothing to me. It's all very confusing, the way our minds work. confused

06-14-02, 01:34 PM
Walks On Water
Of course you know they give a trip to the country for thoughts like these for a little "Rest".

Mine are not predictable nor do they come with any regularity, but like I said, have saved me a time or to.

When they do come, it is a quick flash of a scene and if I act quick enough, I can change the out come of that scene. I have let them go on without changing anything and said to myself, "You could have changed that out come".

I am at a loss as to why or how this happens.

Now tonight, after all the little kiddies are to bed and you are off the e-mail for awhile, sit back and relax with a tall drink of your liking and read the following web site. I will be out of town for the weekend and won't be able to check my mail, but I expect to see some interesting comments here Sunday night.

Ms. Bridy Murphy

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06-14-02, 03:46 PM
Kalena
I completely understand what you are talking about, except for me is more like mind reading. I tend to say things that the person i'm talking to what just about to say, or i can tell you what time it is without looking at a clock, or when the phone rings i'll know who it is before i answer it.
It does not happen often, but i try to use it because i am wiccan and i have done some study on psychic powers. If you want more info, you can go to the nature religions section of anserpool. i'm sure everyone there would be more than happy to answer any question you may have concerning any type of psychic or mind power.

06-14-02, 06:27 PM

I have found it either makes people nervous or frightens them when it begins to happen too often. When a few people accused me of being inside their head I withdrew and, when it happens now I try to ignore it, change subjects to avoid it or say something to avoid an obvious connection. But must admit that it may be a way of watching people that gives the clues - I honestly don't know since it isn't something that is a conscious effort. So what does this have to do with the question, as asked?
I've had far less success with the nature of your question - aside from obvious consequences of the personality involved, I generally miss the large events of their lives - quite often miss the strange ones of my own life. Knowing the future is not something I would enjoy.

06-15-02, 05:31 PM
dogspit
I do believe in premonitions and have witnessed them before. Years back a teenage girl was missing here in the valley, when they broadcast her face I immediately felt that her and a friend were holed up someplace doing drugs. They found her in a hotel room a few days later strung out on coke.
Coincidence, premonition or just a jaundiced view of life...I have my opinion and will leave
you to your own.

06-15-02, 08:01 PM
WiteoutKing
All the time. When I was 8 I had a dream about looking at this clock I have, it saying 11:30, then looking down at a record I was putting on the player, Turning Japanese (great song big grin ). Anyway, next night I looked at my clock, watched it change from 11:30 to 11:31, then put on the Turning Japanese record before I realized it. Even besides this, I have EXTREME deja vu. I don't think it's coincidence at all. I just think it's really odd and that there is an explanation for it. (Cue X-Files music)

06-16-02, 09:51 PM
LVLF
Ya, I suppose they do have places for those who need a 'rest'. Anywhooo. I had a dream that plagued me thru my senior high years , same dream but each time I had it the sequence progressed a bit more. It started with me, I pressumed at the time, driving a white car toward home, my view in the dream was thru the windshield. Each time I had the dream I would get a little closer to home, then at one point I knew I was going to crash, but the dream ended. The next time I did crash, and I couldn't feel anything but I remember going thru the winshield and all the blood, and matted hair ( mid 1970's, I had waist length hair)After I dreamed that I went thru the windshield I never had the dream again. I am convinced though that it wasn't me in the dream, but another girl in school who people say resembled me, or I resembled her. Teachers were always mixing us up. Anyway, shortly after graduation she died in a car crash, a white car. She hit a telephone pole at about 85 m.p.h, and went right thru the windshield. I think of her often.

06-17-02, 08:43 PM
mahal
My mother once stood up on the bus and shouted "Oh, they're going to hit!"

Of course, everyone turned and looked at her and made her feel really dumb. About a minute later, there was an accident in the intersection the bus was heading towards.

I've thought about this many years since it happened and find that there's no explanation other than that she was lying. Since she's a simple, honest woman, that one doesn't work, either. eek

06-18-02, 09:29 AM
LVLF
That is really freaky, how horrible and scary, and confusing it must have been for your mother.
I have only one solid episode of precog. , or whatever. Years ago as a cocktail waitress while training in the new girl I told her how you have to learn to 'read' your customers. As a couple walked in I said, take those two for example, they came to the wrong entrance, the are looking for the dining room upstairs. And sure enough, they walked over to the bartender and asked if there was a way to get upstairs, explaining that they were supposed to meet friends and they came into the building thru the wrong door. Not too earth shattering, but it did freak me out. When I told the new waitress you have to learn to read people, I was thinking more along the lines of can you joke with these customers, or not. That sort of thing.

06-18-02, 12:31 PM
Elexina
My mother has premonitions but they are not specific. She'll simply know that *something* is going to happen, but she never knows what exactly. I'll tell you, though, if my mother says she has a "bad feeling" about a particular thing I'm doing or a place I'm going, I will change my plans, no questions asked.
I, on the other hand, have had some pretty specific premonitive dreams. I'll dream an event and then later (a week, perhaps, or several years) it will happen. Of course, I do not know at the time of the dream that it is a premonition so I cannot alter the outcome in any way. It's only when the thing happens and I look back and remember "whoa, I dreamt about this!" that I realize.
One particularly disturbing dream I had was when I was very young and I dreamt that the reason my cousin wore a baseball hat all the time was because he was hiding this hideous growth on his head. My cousin died of a brain tumor about ten years later.
Kooky stuff.

06-18-02, 01:26 PM
Texan-In-Exile
I've had so many cases of psychic phenomena happen to me. Let me share a couple of really freaky ones:
Years ago, my cousin and I noticed often were "on the same wavelength." The weirdest time came when we were washing dishes, not saying anything. Then we started singing THE SAME SONG in THE SAME PART of the song - in the middle of the chorus, not even at the beginning! You can only imagine our reaction! red face
Another especially freaky time was when I was listening to the radio while they were playing "Daniel," then "Billy, Don't Be A Hero." I said (just to the radio, I guess) "Well, Daniel gets maimed and Billy gets bumped off!" And I'll be darned if the DJ didn't say THE EXACT SAME THING! I really freaked out! I just wish I'd had witnesses! eek

06-21-02, 04:18 PM
DIXIEGIRL26
I'm always completing people sentences for them and have freaked out my husband more times than he is comfortable with by telling him someone is on the phone for him before it even rings. I get connected to people I'm close to and have overwhelming urges to call them from time to time, only to find out something bad was going on or that they were sick. What is the hardest thing for me to deal with though is that I feel other peoples pain and emotions as if they were my own.

06-21-02, 04:44 PM
BROOKERS
Firstly it is really great to see the category 'The Unexplained' beginning to be used so much within such a short period.

Unfortunately, I do not know if I am lucky or not because I have had a few premonitions or sights into the future which have come to fruition. Some good, some not so good.

The one that springs to mind happened in the early 70s.

In the early hours of the morning on a weekend I awoke and in my mind was a name 'Buz Kashi'. Obviously with it being such an unusual name and added to the fact that I used to enjoy a flutter on the gee gees, I thought it must have been the name of a horse.

I fell back to sleep but when I awoke I remembered the name. During the course of the week I kept a good eye on the horse race entries and lo and behold on I think, the wednesday, there was a Buz Kashi down to run in one of the english classics, I believe it was the 1000 or 2000 Guineas.

The horse had a row of six ducks against its name and I obviosly thought "no way can this horse win". However, I told my boss and she said that I should back it. She me asked me to put £5 each way on the horse and gave me time off to nip to the bookies to back it and listen to the race.

I also put £5 each way and settled back to listen to the race.

You guessed it, it won at 33/1. I waited for a few minutes and then collected the winnings. The horses had not yet weighed in but some bookmakers if they feel everything is in order will pay out.

I went back to the office paid my boss and sat quite happily at my desk for the rest of the afternoon.

Now this is the strangest part. On my way home I popped into the bookies to see what the tote paid out and discovered that just after I left with my winnings there was an objection by the 2nd horse (I think an odds on favourite called One in a Million) to the winner.

Buz Kashi although he won the race was disqualified and placed last.

What I could never figure out is, how come I genuinely dreamt a winner who ended up winning but then being placed last after an objection.

Sorry this was so long winded.

06-21-02, 04:57 PM
LVLF
I think you are also an empath, or whatever they called it on Star Trek, Next Generation. It must be exhausting.

06-22-02, 03:31 PM
gizmogram
I can often anticipate the next thing someone's going to say, or who's on the phone when it rings.

It's just a little unsettling, but I've taken other tests and I apparently don't have any special abilities.

06-22-02, 06:08 PM
DIXIEGIRL26
LVLF, yes, I am an empath and it can be exhausting. I pick my friends very carefully for that reason. There are some types of people that zap my energy very quickly. I am just getting the hang of learning how to block myself off. This is why I don't like crowds of people and huge shopping malls. My moods boomerang at drastic rates while walking by people and I'm physically and mentally tired after a short period of time. But my life is never dull wink

06-22-02, 06:20 PM
den0eng3
On the night of January 27, 1986 I dreamt of a space shuttle on fire. The Challenger disaster happened the following day.

Now, I am a rationality fundamentalist, who disdains superstition of any kind. Occam's Razor is my guide in life. But I confess that I did find this coincidence a little unsettling.

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LVLF, yes, I am an empath and it can be exhausting. I pick my friends very carefully for that reason. There are some types of people that zap my energy very quickly. I am just getting the hang of learning how to block myself off. This is why I don't like crowds of people and huge shopping malls. My moods boomerang at drastic rates while walking by people and I'm physically and mentally tired after a short period of time. But my life is never dull

I have had this happpen only once in my 13 short years. The other day at 0300 hours when watching the England Brazil game I suddenly felt that Brazil was going to win 2-1. Was I freaked when it happened!
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06-22-02, 08:18 PM
gizmogram
Years ago, while I was between "real" jobs, I was selling Filter Queen Cleaning Systems. One of my customers was what she called an "Intuitive Counselor".

She bought my system because she said she could tell from the moment she met me that I believed in the product and it's abilities to remove pollen, dust mites & such. At the end she said she would never have bought it if she didn't "feel" that I believed in it also, and wasn't just being a salesperson.

I hadn't been in touch with her for over a year, and one day she called me out of the blue. My husband and I had been having some trouble, and I had been thinking about calling her to get a personal reading. Instead, here she was calling me, (she lived 50 miles away by the way), asking if everything was all right since she had been getting impressions of me in distress for several days.

She moved to another state shortly after that so I was, unfortunately, not able to stay in contact with her. I felt a definite connection, and was disappointed that I lost it.

06-22-02, 11:08 PM
nerdqueendeluxe
Years ago I was on patrol (police) with my partner. I was driving, we had just called in that we were going to lunch break. We came near a liqour store and I "just" knew we had to go see if things were ok. I was looking for a way out of the traffic and trying to tell my partner what was up and wasn't able to get to the correct lane. It was a bit of a distance to get turned around and go back so we both just brushed it off but he caught me still looking back. We got sat down in the diner and had to rush back to the store as it had just been robbed. The robber was very nervous and waving a .357 in everyone's face. He got away and no one was hurt.

Question...If I had overcome the traffic and we had walked into the middle of this what would have happened? Me, the rookie, walked in first and been killed? Someone else been killed? Did precog give the warning and a Higher Power add the traffic?

After this, I certainly had a reputation around that police department.

06-25-02, 03:35 PM
den0eng3

quote:Originally posted by Matiqua:
The other day at 0300 hours when watching the England Brazil game I suddenly felt that Brazil was going to win 2-1. Was I freaked when it happened!

Ha, bloody ha! If this is a joke, it is in very poor taste!

06-28-02, 07:43 PM
orthotech30
I dream of plane crashes before they happen. It really freaks my husband out because I will wake up in the morning and tell him about my dream and a couple days later there is a plane crash. I never know which plane it's going to be or the number. A week before the world trade disaster I had a dream about a plane crash and that who ever was flying the plane at the time was at fault. In my dream that person was wearing red.

06-29-02, 12:03 PM
Matiqua
den0eng3, it is not a joke, right before Brazil scored I suddenly felt that Brazil would win.
It is not a joke.

06-30-02, 12:24 AM
Tree
K - this all looks interesting! I can certainly relate to those who's dreams predict certain things. It's happened to me many times. BUT, I must say, the deja vu is pretty common and explainable. The right side of your brain control the left and the left controls the right, therefore, once in a blue moon, these signals are out of sinc and you experience them twice - since the other side has to catch up by a fraction of a second... and POOF, it feels like you just relived an episode.

07-01-02, 03:06 AM
stanbee
Late night Sunday in a Chinese-Burmese restaurant, years ago in Philly, I was unnerved by the smell of boiling oil. but I am in the front, very far from the kitchen. Bubbling angrily in my ears through the adjacen psrting wall, acrid in my nose as if ready to ignite. Roiling in my mind's eye. Asked the waiter to check the kitchen for a wok of overheated oil. She assured me she would check.

Some weeks later I returned for the famed Burmese soup.
Closed due to fire. Checking the newspapers I found the disaster killed some tenants upstairs. This happened on the night that
I saw the oil at my table, in my brain.

The warning saved no one.


What was it all about? The first and only.
* * *

My friend Joan has been precog since four when she predicted the death of her friend's granma. Just popped into her head. She learned early to keep things to herself.


At four she was taken to the priest. Possible exorcism.
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One more Joan.

Years later our friend's father, Carl, was found dead in the bedroom. His will revealed a large sum of money hidden in a book in this room.

He slept with books.

His world was mental: high ideals, heroism (in the Irgun, rescuing Jews from the Nazis), indifference to prestige, things, money.

The room is filled with towers of books everywhere and the floor. And Boxes and boxes. Imminent avalanche.

Joan offered to go to Pop's room and empath around. Maybe his soul would guide her to the book. No stranger to the occult, she is psychic and is a practicing astrologer

Fearlessly up the steps. Down the hall. To his backroom death. Soon we heard her walk the hallway back towards the bathroom. She was up there so long. We called fo her. Faintly she spoke as she fumbled down the steps, hair awry, bleeding mascara; and passed out on the couch. She looked -- beat up. Huh?

In twenty minutes Joan began to whimper , then babble. She told Zel in which book her father had hidden the money. It was sorely needed to save him from a pauper's burial.

As she came to, Joan revealed she had relived the stations of Carl's death. A heart atack in the bedroom caused him to seek pills in the bathroom where he collapsed tormented and crawled doen the hall to die with his books.

Preposterous?
Zel found the money quickly in that Alexandrian bedroom with Joan and Carl's help...

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07-02-02, 03:00 PM
Spencer
I used to have this feeling of de-ja-vu years back until I figured out that what was happening was that I was having premonitions in my dreams. My sister also claims that she does too.

The wierdest one is when I dreamed of the sequence of events of when my father was to die.
A year later, when the phone rang I got this icy chill and I knew that my father was dead. I picked up and was told he was rushed to the hospital, but I already knew that he had died instantly from a massive heart attack in his living room and his last word was my mother's name. My mother told me later that this was exactly what had happened.

07-05-02, 02:25 AM
Julieta Martinez
I believe nothing is a coincidence. Everything happens for a reason. And I also think that everyone has in them a certain capacity for "knowing" things. In other words, I think everyone is 'a little psychic.'

07-07-02, 04:05 PM
Ewood27
When I was in the (Royal) Air Force I twice watched aircraft coming in to land and knew they would have undercarriage (landing gear) trouble - and they did. One had a complete leg collapse, while the other suffered a burst tyre. In neither case did the pilot suspect anything and there were no subtle visual clues.

On the other hand I have sometimes had feelings (less strong) that something would go wrong, but it hasn't, so now I don't know what to think.

07-08-02, 09:54 PM
cattywampus
There IS a scientific explanation for deja vu, I read about it just the other day and if I can remember it, here it is:

Perception consists of several steps. In the first step, you lay your hand on a hot stove. In the second, the nerves in the hand send pain signals to the brain. Third, the brain reacts, and you feel what you're experiencing. Fourth, you form a memory of the event.
The theory says that when we experience deja vu it is because steps three and four have gotten reversed. In other words, the memory is formed before you feel the pain. If you walk into a room you've never visited before yet you could close your eyes and say what's in there, it's because the memory was formed before the brain got around to telling you what you are seeing.
Well, that's the theory, anyway. Sorry I couldn't explain it better. If this kind of thing interests you you might enjoy the book BRAIN TRICKS, by Dave Wiener. It sure opened my eyes! eek eek

07-11-02, 10:25 PM
den0eng3

quote:Originally posted by Matiqua:
den0eng3, it is not a joke, right before Brazil scored I suddenly felt that Brazil would win.
It is not a joke.

Hmmm. I had that feeling too, in fact I have the constant feeling that England are going to lose in every match they play, right up to the last minute of injury time. I actually picked the name I use here after the Denmark-England match, because I was convinced that it was the last and best victory we would have in the World Cup. I was right, but I don't call it promonition, I call it realism! frown

08-07-02, 08:09 AM
Nellie2
For as long as I can remember of have experienced feelings that I (or someone else) should or shouldn't do something or other. Often, the thing I felt I should/shouldn't do was not the least bit logical to my conscious mind.

I used to explain these feelings by reasoning that my subconscious mind was better able to interpret a situation than my conscious mind. (EG If I got a bad feeling about someone I'd just met, I would reason that there was perhaps something about this persons body language or whatever that my subconscious mind recognised even though my conscious mind couldn't).

I believed this until my early 20s when I had an experience that just could not be explained that way.

The short story is that: While waiting in a queue of bumper to bumper traffic, I suddenly had the feeling that I should get off this road and take a totally illogical and protracted route home. So I did. The person who moved up and took my place in the queue was killed at the next intersection when a truck ran a red light at 100k's per hour.

I no longer dismiss any sudden feelings I get.

08-07-02, 09:24 AM
Texan-In-Exile
I just thought of another incident - eerie.

In 1994 I was on a 24-hour ambulance rotation for the EMT training I was taking. At 9:30am a woman called because her brother was having chest pains. The man refused treatment and signed a waiver. I got a bad feeling there and told the paramedic I was riding with "We'll be back."

I thought of the man occasionally throughout the day and wondered if his sister had ever convinced him to go to the hospital.

The next morning at 6:20 we were called out. As we approached the house, I realized it was the same one. It was too late for the man - rigor mortis had even set in. Very sad.

The paramedic looked at me and said "You knew, didn't you?"

08-17-02, 01:45 PM
displacedNYer
In my opinion, there is a difference between being a psychic - which I define as someone who can genuinely and routinely pick up things with senses other than the regular 5 - and Picking Something Up - which I define as just knowing something unknowable once or twice. This said, I think most people Pick Something Up at some point in their life, which few are genuinely psychic. I have had many incidences of precognition, which do creep me right out. For instance, today, I felt the urge to call my best friend in NY even though I just talked to her last week and really didn't have anything to say. Turns out she had been trying to find my phone number frantically because she just found out she is pregnant (unplanned, not really wanted) and was hysterical. How did I know to call? I don't know, but I am glad I did. I also knew, four years ago as my family and I were driving down to my grandparent's house, that my grandfather had just died. I looked at the clock when I felt it, and when we arrived found out he'd died at the exact time I'd looked at the clock.

So I don't know - I don't believe in coincidence, but I don't know how it works or why some people and not others.

09-29-02, 04:46 AM
vedere
1. In 1985, a co-worker and I were conversing. Mentally, I 'hear' two words...stomach cancer. About a year later, she died from stomach cancer.

2. A young co-worker had her leg amputated to the knee because of cancer, As I was thinking abut her, I knew that she was dying, even though she had told everybody that she had beaten 'it.' Six months later, she died.

3. In 1995, I was talking to another co-worker who mentioned she was experiencing minor, consistant health problem. Audibly, I heard somebody say to me "colon cancer". The thing was--nobody else was present. I told my friend and peer to have it checked out, and was assured that it was nothing. I was adamant that if the problem persisted for a month or two, check it out. Almost three months later, my co-worker underwent surgery for (early detected) colon cancer, and I am happy to say that this person is doing well today. BTW, this person only consulted the physician because my words kept echoing in my friend's ears.

09-29-02, 06:00 AM
vedere
At home nine years ago, I saw the face of a little girl in a vision. I had never seen her before, and I was wide awake. Two years later, she 'visited' again. She appeared to be circa nine years old. The only thing I saw was her head and her shoulders. Occuring five times within an eight-year timespan, each vision lasted approximately 15-20 seconds. Each time, she looked a little older.

This past August, I attended a music festival where three stages were set up for professional bands; a tent was also set up for an individual recording artist who performed with the house band. For some reason, I was drawn into the tent. The family sitting in the row in front of me included a teenaged girl, perhaps 16 years of age. After the last song was played, she looked at me fully in the face and this time she was not a vision.
Now standing in front of me was the girl I had seen in visions for nine years! I walked over and put my hand on her shoulder. She turned around, gave me a huge smile, and we embraced in a bear hug. She repeatedly told me. "Thank you", but I cannot tell you why.
Was this premonition, coincidence, or other? and why the nine year

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