A long time ago I came up with this idea, but since it goes against current science. I didn't really advertise it, but I got a post on another board asking so I thought i'd post the response here since this idea requires someone with a knowledge of mechanical engineering. I have no clue if this works since I dont know the presice measurements to put this thing together. I also appoligize in advance since this probably going to be a long post.
First a written descripition followed (hopefully) by pictures I made:
1. The arm on the top that is above all the gears will have a magnet connected to it via either a clamp encloses the magnet so it doesnt move, or can be screwed into the piece through holes in the a custom magnet. The arm needs to be designed to not allow it to twist under the pressure of the magnetic force which will try to flip the arm around, and, push it up, or down. When the magnetic hammer piece comes up to make contact with the magnet on the arm, due to the fact they will in line with each other, it will push the arm forward by the repelling force of the magnets since they will be having the same poles facing each other and "hopefully" push the arm past the next hammer piece to then cause that hammer piece to pop up into position to repel that magnet.
2. The middle bar connected to the arms will then turn causing a ratchet gear, connected to a pawl (which is there to prevent pressure of the magnet pushing it back due to the chaotic nature of magnetic fields, maybe it won't even be needed), to turn and a spur gear connected also to the middle bar to turn, which will be connected to a pulley ring with a spur gear on it's side.
3.This will then turn the pulley ring which will have a pulley belt coming around it to pull the belt in one direction causing 4 other pulley rings to turn in different directions causing a fifth pulley ring with a bevel connected to it's side to turn causing another bevel gear to turn that would be connected on the side of a spur gear will be followed by several spur gears with spur gears on their sides to form a gear train.
4.The gears will extend on each side outwards enough to allow the other to connect properly. The last gear in the gear train will also be a double sided gear that will have a bevel gear on it's side. This will allow it to make contact at an angle with the bevel gear on it's side which will be connected to the flap on the hinge that is connected to the "clock style" magnetic hammer piece. The magnet can either be clamped to the hammer holder piece or be screwed in through a custom magnet with holes on it, into the holder piece. The double sided spur gear with the bevel gear on it's other side that is the last on the gear train right before the one connected to the hinge, will have missing teeth on the bevel gear which will allow the "clock style" magnetic hammer piece to go back up. The last spur gear in the gear train can also have a spur gear instead of a bevel to connect to the other 2 types of hammer pieces.
5.The magnetic hammer piece will be connected to a spring which will be connected to a stationary holder piece built into the floor of the casing. This will allow the magnetic piece to fly back and into position to repel the magnet. For every 2 magnetic hammer pieces, there will be one magnet and one arm that connects to the middle bar above. There will be a second floor in the casing to allow the pawl to be connected for the ratchet gear connected to the middle bar and will have enough space between the first floor and second one to allow the other 2 types of hammer pieces to go through the first top floor and out of the way of the magnet on the arm. It should also have enough space to allow the hinge and hammer piece for the "clock style" hammer piece to go through and with the hammer piece to allow enough space for it to rotate all the way around.
This is the original hammer piece version that allows the hammer piece to be pulled down by gear teeth on its side which will be connected to the gear train. There will slits on the corners of the holder piece of the hammer piece to allow the piece to go through the top first floor and be psuched to the bottom of the second floor and out of the way of the magnet on the arm that will be rotating past it.
Well since the pictures are bigger then 12k. I'll have to post direct links. Didn't even know that was against the TOS, sorry. Never the less this is a 3D picture of the device mentioned
I believe one day a machine will be built that harnesses the force of gravity to produce work. How? Well a basketball falls if dropped from a tree, but rises if released from the bottom of a swimming pool; you have opposing forces on the same object at different times, and if put in cycle work could be extracted. Now if I could just find a way to get that ball up into that tree and down to the bottom of that pool without using work...
[QUOTE] From aminator2002: What is this supposed to do? Does it have some purpose?
Ask Frankvan he posted a web page below explaining why this goes "against" current science.
Never the less I just was hoping someone with mechanical engineering skills would see past the thermodynamic laws and at least keep an open mind and at least try to put it together.
It's a considered a "perpetual motion machine" using the power of repelling magnetical force to turn several arms causing anything connected to the middle pole to turn. I have no clue if it works but if someone else wants to try and see if it works just read the description and the pictures and post any questions on here.
I understand, that's why I said, it "goes against current science" but I know i'm gunna get slack for this but those laws were made by people. A long time ago the church decreed the world was flat and everyone wouldn't dare go against it. Now some scientist come along with limited knowledge and decree the laws of the whole universe like they were some all knowing god. I personally believe it is possible to have pertuality in the universe as long as it goes undisturbed. All I ask Frankvan is just have an open mind. Just imagine if this thing worked how many bills would be lessened, plus just think of the possibility of it on world hunger.
Bare in mind, when selecting which of the hammer pieces to use, you can only use one type for one device. For example, if you go with the clock hammer version, then all the magnetic hammer pieces must be of that same version on that device.
My security system tell me that your link is to a "spammy mass mailer" and so I haven't really seen your overhead view. So far as I can tell, and I'm an electrical engineer, (not a mechanical one), if you succeed in finding someone willing to try to add dimensions, ratios and coherence to this so-called revolutionary device, it will not be any mechanical engineer I've ever encountered in my 85 years on this ball of mud. Just because someone can fantasize about building a perpetual motion machine, does not make it so. And assuming it were possible, as soon as one tried to get it to do any useful work, it would have to come to a screeching halt. The laws of physics are pretty well established. Unlike your flat earth analogy, beliefs of a primitive civilization have never been accepted as "laws" by any scientists of any era. I hate to rain on your parade, but I think you are wasting time on a Rube Goldberg pipe dream.
Originally posted by frankvan: My security system tell me that your link is to a "spammy mass mailer" and so I haven't really seen your overhead view. So far as I can tell, and I'm an electrical engineer, (not a mechanical one), if you succeed in finding someone willing to try to add dimensions, ratios and coherence to this so-called revolutionary device, it will not be any mechanical engineer I've ever encountered in my 85 years on this ball of mud. Just because someone can fantasize about building a perpetual motion machine, does not make it so. And assuming it were possible, as soon as one tried to get it to do any useful work, it would have to come to a screeching halt. The laws of physics are pretty well established. Unlike your flat earth analogy, beliefs of a primitive civilization have never been accepted as "laws" by any scientists of any era. I hate to rain on your parade, but I think you are wasting time on a Rube Goldberg pipe dream.
Well I already put the idea together so the time was already wasted ;-). Never the less, this was just a little side thing I put together on spare time I had. I actually was inspired one night while reading up on gears and magnets and their various forms. Then it stuck me. Why hasn't anyone thought of trying to use the repelling forces of magnets as a source of energy. So with what I read about gears, I put together this idea. Your probably right, though, it wouldn't surprise me that there aren't any mechanical engineers that would give this idea the time of day. But I saw no harm in putting it out there for anyone who might be curious.
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