While flipping through the wide range of channels provided by my cable company last night, I stumbled across the LOGO channel. A channel which appears to be geared at the gay and Lesbian (or is that lesbian and gay?) crowd.

Carefully I note the advertisers.

Time Life Books/Music selling 1970’s love songs.
Bow Flex
A weight loss supplement ad
Money lender
Gay Cruises to the Gay Florida keys (I didn’t know they were gay)

-> The only thing they have in common is they know that the Gay and Lesbian/Lesbian and gay crowd has money and they are after it.

The line up includes movies: Classics like ‘Pricilla Queen of the Desert’, ‘Torch Song Trilogy’, blah, Civil rights stuff, documentaries, drag queens, perhaps there are some specifically made for this channel shows in the works?

Nope, no gay porn.

Nobody from my cable company called to ask if I wanted this channel – I assume it is basic cable (not a pay channel like HBO, SHOW, STARS) The channel just appeared and I came across it by accident just by flipping through my channels. I can only conclude that one night while nobody was watching Gay TV came into being.

Now I am of two minds on this.

Half of me says “Woo-Hoo!” and cheers the idea that after so long that the GLBT community has a channel. Will I watch it, well my TV watching is limited to what ever my partner watches. He will watch it – a lot.

The other half of me groans and shudders to think of the coming war as good Christian Families discover that the homosexuals are taking over their TVs.

I imagine that the Kids are going to come across this channel like I did, through flipping through the endless fare of re-runs, reality shows and other utterly boring or stupid programming. I wonder if they are going to watch it for a couple three weeks before Mom and Dad discover what they are watching and throw a huge hissy fit over having that “sin” secretly aired on TV all in one channel.

What will Pat Buchanan Say? What about Jerry Falwell? What about Mr. Phelps of the God Hates Fags group?

So now that you are aware that Gay TV is here – are you going to take a look see?

The Website for it is: http://www.logoonline.com/
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07-25-05, 12:45 PM
Georgia85
That must be the tv station that Jack McFarland ("Will & Grace") works for Wink

Very interesting indeed. Nothing like television aiding to the stereotype. But I definately will check out the website - although not at work Eek

07-25-05, 11:31 PM
honilov
This is very interesting David. I didn't realize that such a channel existed and it's not available through my cable company.
However, there's been a lot of shows on tv where actors/actresses have played gay roles, so parents should be used to it by now. So, where kids are concerned, whether it's real or fictional, the end result of the shows are the same with them.

I'm sure the people that you named though, will probably have a lot to say about an entire channel being geared toward Gays/Lesbians.

Now, to answer your question, if I could get the channel, I'd probably check it out, but since the most I watch on tv is music videos, it wouldn't be a hit for me unless there was music involved.

07-26-05, 06:30 AM
Fritzzs

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However, there's been a lot of shows on tv where actors/actresses have played gay roles,


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Checked it out and your above is what the kind of movies are being shown...
Saw 2 in the past few days and they were very good... Just used a gay theme... One starred Mathew Broderick, and Anne Bancroft and some other reconizeable actors... Very funny...
Don't remember the other one...
These two movies were made some years ago and no doubt were box office flops....

07-26-05, 12:50 PM
DvdGStwrt

quote:
Originally posted by honilov:
This is very interesting David. I didn't realize that such a channel existed and it's not available through my cable company.
However, there's been a lot of shows on tv where actors/actresses have played gay roles, so parents should be used to it by now. So, where kids are concerned, whether it's real or fictional, the end result of the shows are the same with them.

I'm sure the people that you named though, will probably have a lot to say about an entire channel being geared toward Gays/Lesbians.

Now, to answer your question, if I could get the channel, I'd probably check it out, but since the most I watch on tv is music videos, it wouldn't be a hit for me unless there was music involved.



Actually it does have music videos - According to the programe line up on the Cable guide - however its been wrong on times and shows - I assume that is due to the newness of the channel.

07-26-05, 01:05 PM
Georgia85
This is definately a new channel owned by Viacom's MTV networks and targeting programming aimed at lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender adults. It was launched on June 13, 2005 and currently is available to 10-13 million homes. LOGO has also partnered with CBS News to provide news briefs.

It's currently carried by DirecTV, Charter Communications, Adelphia, Cablevision, Time Warner Cable of New York, and RCN.

Thanks again for the info David. I see my my cable provider (Comcast) didn't accept a deal with LOGO until after the network was launched. So perhaps Comcast will be carrying that network soon.

07-26-05, 08:15 PM
jusork
So why's it called LOGO?

07-27-05, 01:36 AM
DvdGStwrt

quote:
Originally posted by jusork:
So why's it called LOGO?

I don't know - evil influences? The devil in the details?

08-05-05, 12:00 AM
mozart56
I am making this up. "Liberation Of Gay Oriented". Smile

08-05-05, 03:12 AM
DvdGStwrt

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Originally posted by mozart56:
I am making this up. "Liberation Of Gay Oriented". Smile


LOL - That works for me. I think they tried LEGO but some other company already owned that name.

(I made that up, sounds like an interesting rumor to start though) Wink

09-13-05, 12:28 AM
Wildflower63
I strongly suggest buying ShowTime's Queer as Folk series. My daughter and I watch it, as straight women. We love it! It is a bit graphic, but if we like it, I give you my word that you will too.

You want gay male TV, you should have subscribed to Showtime on cable, but it's not too late for you. Buy the season DVD, just as I probably will. This went to Season 5, but had to end good. They all ended up getting into gay marriage and how far can you go from that and stay cool?

You want something well written, yet gay male? Check into the Showtime series, Queer as Folk. Straight women like this. Straight guys wont sit in the same room with this show. It's that good! The music, writing, everything is brilliant. This is gay TV, the best you can find it.

Well, there is the L Word, by Showtime about gay women's lifestyle in California. It took me a few to deal with this, but a good show and well written. I don't expect you to deal with lesbians. I do give a high recommend, even by my gay male co-workers who love this series. So will you. They already know Queer as Folk but have lesbian friends.

The only problem is, this is old news. You have to buy the season DVD, which I have seen at Best Buy. The guys on Queer as Folk got too old for their roles, so it ended before it got that bad. It is worth a look, or second one.

Check it out, if you haven't already or Will and Grace is going to be as close to gay TV as you will ever get, which is pathetic.

We're here. We're queer. Get used to it was something 30 years ago, but TV has not caught up, just pay cable. I am not gay, but adore seeing a guy give a, how do I say 'work', a different way? Women do this all the time. It is high time I see a man do the same.

It's all good, to open minded straight women. I even allow my teen daughter to watch this show, no matter how graphic. She needs to understand there is a world that exist well beyond anything I can teach her, so I show my kids gay.

Criticize me all you want for allowing my teen kids to watch 'Gay TV' and like it. I don't raise socially ignorant or intolerant adults. Kids live with gay couples. Why not make it 'normal'? It teaches tolerance, even if explicit sexual acts.

We are all the same. We like sex. I have a porn collection to die for, straight or gay male. It's all good.

Done....

09-13-05, 01:47 PM
DvdGStwrt
Ironically I thought that Queer as Folk was too pornographic for my tastes and did not really show real gay life. I did not like the show, did not like the story line (to much of a fairy-taleWink).

I admit I am a prude. But I have always had some pretty conservative views about sex - not saying I down gays, just saying I think that sex should be part of a relationship - long term relationship, should be something that is private and "Special" between two people. Promiscuity does not suit me, through all of my life I have only had 8 sex partners. That is sexual death for the gay scene BTW Wink

09-13-05, 02:44 PM
juanruiz

quote:
just saying I think that sex should be part of a relationship - long term relationship, should be something that is private and "Special" between two people.

I have never seen the show, but I read somewhere that two of the characters are a Lesbian couple who do have a monogamous relationship and, in fact, have some sort of "marriage" ceremony.

09-13-05, 07:59 PM
DvdGStwrt

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Originally posted by juanruiz:

quote:
just saying I think that sex should be part of a relationship - long term relationship, should be something that is private and "Special" between two people.



I have never seen the show, but I read somewhere that two of the characters are a Lesbian couple who do have a monogamous relationship and, in fact, have some sort of "marriage" ceremony.



Yes Juan, however the gay (male) couples have had their fair share of "ups and downs" shall we say. Even though during the course of the show the Lesbian couple has a serious issue when one of the girls goes out with a guy.

The next runner up would be Mike who has at least two long term relationships and this on going love/unrequited love thing going on with Brian who himself is a druggy/advertiser/loose morals type has a “boy” (actually meeting a 17 year old in the first season while he is pushing 30) who is in love with him though Brian does not ever (until the last few episodes of the last season) really want to pursue monogamy, relationship, etc.

The picture painted is more stereo-type casting of the genders (Gay men are promiscuous, the lesbians marry for life – highly stereotyped there) and the rolls spiced up with "hot" sex to sell the show. It was especially written to be mixed with controversy to "test" the waters for gay-themed programming.

The writer(s) and producer, although gay, rank fairly low in my books. What they wrote and produced is no more reality than day-time soap operas. Fantasy in fairy cloths.

10-16-05, 06:50 PM
kittypal
The thing I am wondering is will they put on the shows that are stereo-typical, like Streisand concerts or musicals? I don't see anything wrong with it except for that don't gay people usually like to watch what non gay people do?

10-17-05, 03:31 PM
DvdGStwrt

quote:
Originally posted by kittypal:
The thing I am wondering is will they put on the shows that are stereo-typical, like Streisand concerts or musicals? I don't see anything wrong with it except for that don't gay people usually like to watch what non gay people do?



Actually they are putting on the "stereotyped" gay themed programming. It pressed some hidden buttons of mine and I find myself uttering the F words when every Danny puts THAT CHANNEL on. I call it the “F-ing F---t Channel” Wink.

Seriously I am not amused with it the more I see the more I dislike it and see it as another wedge being driven between the Hetero/Homo cultures. A benign attempt at equality appears to me to be generating another barrier. My opinion, but lets not forget I view any media attention of homosexuals as being targeted toward pointing out the difference, not the similarities –a form of bigotry that is masked under the guise of being “equality”.

On the 5th page of the local rag that passes as a Newspaper around here, reported a lot of threats of individuals who wanted the cable company to drop the channel under the threat of leaving, to that the cable company announced in an official press release that civilly and diplomatically told those who protested to “get bent”, while pointing out that they provided over 100 channels, of which 30% of those channels were targeted as special interest groups, ranging from Christian Broadcasting to Islamic Broadcasting, Race/culture specific broadcasting which underlines the Cable Companies “fair and equal” treatment of minorities.

My Favorite channels programmed into The Box are, Local channel for News, Sci-Fi channel, HGTV, discovery and TLC and CNN and FOX News along with an assortment of Music Channels which play nothing but music. The TV is actually Danny’s domain, I rarely watch it, and I find I can barely sit through a show let alone a feature length movie. But I still affectionately call the TV the ‘Idiot Box’ and refer kindly to those who spend a lot of time in front of it as “idiots” – This has caused a few misgivings here at home, discussions if you will Wink.

10-18-05, 12:06 PM
kittypal
I don't see how they can compare a target audience of religious, black, Islamic, or any other "target" audience to gays...obviously religious programming would be religion based theme, same with the other groups I mentioned, but gay people are just people, they can be black, Islamic or religious. Not all gays even like show tunes!! Wink

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