08-18-04, 11:06 AM DvdGStwrt That is selling a book by that title. I was looking for clues as to what the gay agenda is.
I fear that when I came out of the closet nobody gave be the rules and regulations and handed me a copy of this Agenda. I continually hear of it but to date I have yet to hear what it is exactly and since I spend several hours taking gay tests yesterday scoring my best at 31% positively gay, the rest falling well short of 20% I am beginning to fear that I am not gay like I thought.
So perhaps I am unwittingly following the Gay Agenda and having a copy of that to compare my life may prove to me that I am gay.
David
08-18-04, 11:12 AM MrsS David, M'Dear, I hope this helps... Click Here
08-18-04, 12:14 PM methos You mean it isn't on the back of the membership card they gave you at orientation?
You did go to orientation... didn't you?
No?
Well, there's your problem, you're not a part of the grand conspiracy yet!
08-18-04, 01:32 PM DvdGStwrt
quote:Originally posted by methos: You mean it isn't on the back of the membership card they gave you at orientation?
You did go to orientation... didn't you?
No?
Well, there's your problem, you're not a aprt of the grand conspiracy yet!
Orientation? there was an orientaion? Oh great, now that explains a lot.
David
08-18-04, 01:33 PM DvdGStwrt
quote:Originally posted by MrsS: David, M'Dear, I hope this helps...http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2004/02/18/fioreagenda.DTL
LOL - too funny. It may turn out that this is the truth. I'm holding out for it though, I bet somebody knows the real agenda.
08-18-04, 02:06 PM Elexina David, I have been asking that question for years. I think it has something to do with you gay people, like, wanting equal rights and stuff? And isn't that so preposterous? And I think that somehow "allowing" you gay people to love and make lives together is going to bring about the downfall of the nation -but that's what you really want, isn't it? That must be the agenda: to make bad things happen and laugh about it. Man, I can't believe they don't give you people a pamphlet or a handbook or something! How are you supposed to be the root of all that is wrong with society if you don't even know what you're supposed to be doing??
08-18-04, 03:01 PM teeceeum
quote:Originally posted by DvdGStwrt: Oreintation? there was an oreintaion? Oh great, now that explains a lot.
David
Surely you heard about it David. People everywhere are always talking about one's sexual orientation.
08-18-04, 04:47 PM coldfuse I just wanna know if David is the guy on the right or the guy on the left in the "Home Sweet Home" frame of MrsS's link.
08-18-04, 08:25 PM DvdGStwrt
quote:Originally posted by teeceeum:
quote:Originally posted by DvdGStwrt: Oreintation? there was an oreintaion? Oh great, now that explains a lot.
David
Surely you heard about it David. People everywhere are always talking about one's sexual orientation.
I see. Gee this is so confusing. Hmm perhaps I should no choose to be straight.
Wink
08-18-04, 08:25 PM DvdGStwrt
quote:Originally posted by coldfuse: I just wanna know if David is the guy on the right or the guy on the left in the "Home Sweet Home" frame of MrsS's link.
I'm the tall one. Big Grin
08-19-04, 12:10 PM DvdGStwrt Alrighty then.
I have done my research and went to many Christian and Fundamental and Conservative Sites for the Answer. I fear that the Gay sites were all wishy washy on the subject declaring that they only want equality.
My discovery is a startling one, one which truly is insidious and has cause me to pause in my thinking and to consider these things and the motivations behind them. I have concluded that becoming militant on the subject and adopting the institution of the Agenda in my daily affairs is going to be difficult at first, but if I am a self professed gay man I must by default follow the Gay Agenda.
And the agenda?
1. To destroy the sanctity of Marriage by marrying my life partner.
2. To Seek out and destroy the lives of late teens and young men. By converting them to the Homosexual Lifestyle (This one is hard since I really prefer men closer to my age, It will be a hard adjustment to make - I will also have to get over my silly notions that sexuality is NOT a choice and can't be changed)
3. To Penalize and persecute all who find homosexuality wrong - This is different then attempt to educate, since it means I will have to resort to name calling and blatantly lying about the Bible, God and society. I will also have to seek ut new laws which imprison and unjustly punish "hate crimes" with erroneous and unfair consequences for these "made up" crimes.
4. To vote Pink (For anyone who is gay, in known or unknown to me) and to lie and cheat and convince others to vote Pink as well to get as many gays into higher offices to complete the overthrow of society.
5. To demolish God, Christianity and the Church by being an atheist or become a non-christian who lies about being christian. While at the same time subjugating changes in the Doctrine and traditions of the Church to bring about gay marriages, acceptance of the gay lifestyle and of course to pervert the chruch so all men burn in hell for all eternity.
6. To adopt or fight to adopt as many children as possible to convert to the gay life style. Failing that I must start going to schools and convert children, or promote the gay life style and tell them things like "Its ok to be gay.", "God loves you no matter who you love"
7. (on some sites) To single handedly bring about the End Of The World. I also need to start supporting NAMBLA, child Pornography, Bestiality and Terrorism.
8. I am to fully understand and support the other threats to our society; Polygamy, Atheism, Abortion, Metro-sexuality, Judaism (on some Sites) and Pagan religions.
9. I will also have to change my appearance, affect a more effeminate roll and look, learn what styles are in, which ones are out and basically get a lot of support from the Fab 5 (Gay eye for the straight guy) who will have to teach me how to be fashionable, sensitive and how to make a cream brulay (spelling?). I will also have to give up plaid, which is a known "straight man" color of choice.
10. I will have to widen my sexual tastes as well; performing some acts which I can not even bring myself about to writing here - but I must swallow personal tastes and perform these un-tasteful acts. Are feces an acquired taste?
11. Contract and then spread HIV and Aids to as many people as possible (Though Danny will just have to understand that this is my duty and job - Sorry Dear)
12. Infiltrate Prime Time TV with gay shows, Make and sell and spread around pornographic art/movies.
13. Destroy all Straight Marriages as possible (I assume by sleeping with the men?)
14. Infiltrate and inflict the gay life style at schools across America, teaching the youth that being gay is not only normal but is for them irregardless of their sexual orientation.
15. Steal men away from women (Who obviously no longer want them since they are now Liberated - Women's lib is purported to be a manifestation of the Gay Agenda - Women really didn't want to be liberated in the first place)Wink
16. An option proposed by one site: Become a Priest and molest choir boys.
Needless to say I will be very, very busy and may not have time to post here any more.
David
08-19-04, 12:37 PM juanruiz Another one I've heard is that you want to be declared an official minority and therefore be eligible for Affirmative Action and any other quotas or set asides.
08-19-04, 03:04 PM Elexina Wow, David, you have quite a duty laid out for you, don't you? Are you sure you're up to it? Maybe you should not have chosen to be gay, hmmm???
I did my part, though. When I was the GLBSA President in college I went out of my way to touch as many straighties as I could so that they would catch gay and join the agenda. Aren't you proud of me?
08-19-04, 05:36 PM coldfuse Gee, David, take away a couple of those and change "boys" to "girls" and - boom! - you're Melissa Etheridge!
You still haven't told us which Art or Drama teacher convinced you to switch.
08-19-04, 08:24 PM CincyOnTheRoad David, you've got your work cut out for you. But I really think the Gay Agenda can take down the US of A, by God! Look, they done got their hooks into Gov. McGreevey up thar in Jersey.
Whatever. Britney Spears can have a 55-hour marriage, though, and I guess that's what's important. I'm sure Ralph Reed can sleep well at night knowing that much.
08-30-04, 12:47 PM DorianGreyed David, you probably haven't even joined a socialist or communist (No wonder they are called "Pinko!") organization yet. If you check the box under the upper case "P" (for Prevert) on the application, you will get a discount on any hat or scarf you buy. And remember, from now on, only fluoridated water!
09-08-04, 08:40 PM stampeding turtles David, the gay agenda doesn't bother me,(I have realized for some time that it's diversionary scapegoating of an easy target, instead of dealing with the real issues plaguing our nation today.)
It's the 'heterosexual agenda' that is much more worrisome for the planet and the future of species(and all the other species of life on the planet,) as they turn the remaining atoms/matter of the planet into more and more people, choking out the natural resources of the planet and it's ability to sustain itself. ....all leading directly to more wars, as nations fight over resources and territory (like what is happening now with the USA in it's 'colonial- like' struggle abroad just to feed it's huge energy maul.)
It will all end in a titanic nuclear conflagration! But maybe that is what they want, and they are just doing their part to ensure it happens even faster. God bless 'em... they mean well.
Maybe not. Wink
11-10-04, 04:01 AM edgeview I have no problem with homosexuality. I do have a problem with homosexuals who bother children. As a child, I did allot of hitch hiking in the 50's and was bothered allot by homosexuals. I also dislike the misuse of the word GAY. Let's be correct and say homosexual, which is the proper term.
11-10-04, 09:07 AM methos
Those are called pedophiles, and are despicable whether they are men 'bothering' male children, men 'bothering' female children, or what have you. Pedophillia and homosexuality are two very different things.
11-10-04, 12:16 PM Kendor There was a 'Gay Agenda' set back in the '80's. It is in a book called " After the Ball ", where they laid out a six-point plan for how they could transform the beliefs of ordinary Americans with regard to homosexual behavior — in a decade-long time frame. The six points in brief are as follows:
1. "Talk about gays and gayness as loudly and as often as possible."
2. "Portray gays as victims, not as aggressive challengers."
3. "Give homosexual protectors a just cause."
4. "Make gays look good."
5. "Make the victimizers look bad." (Call them bigots and homophobes).
6. "Get funds from corporate America."
Now I don't know what all of that means but I will say this: The problem with Gays today is that they don't understand that they are accepted in today's society. They have exactly the same rights as all other free Americans.
David, you have as much a right to marry a woman as I do.
11-10-04, 01:13 PM DvdGStwrt
quote:Originally posted by Kendor:
David, you have as much a right to marry a woman as I do.
That's nice. But I do not want to marry a woman. I want to marry my man. The man who I am sharing my whole life with. The man who I adore, love and have committed many years to. The man who I will grow old with, the man who I defend, honor, cherish and have pledged my fidelity too. The man who makes me laugh, comforts me and will stand by me even though more white infests my hair and the fine lines deepen upon my face.
I want to marry - until death do us part, the man who I worry about, who I think about, the man who has earned my trust, my love and who I plan my whole life around. Most importantly I want it to be accepted with honor and respect that we are a married couple.
I want to have the same rights as any married couple to visit him in hospital without having to lie and say I am his brother. I want to have it as a matter of course that when I die he get everything instead of having to spend thousands of dollars to make living wills and last testaments that require an attorney to dot the i's and cross the t's to keep the mega-bitch (my dear, sweet, bigoted mother) from taking everything when I die.
I want to have the ability to file income taxes jointly. I want the same tax breaks for a married couple as the breeders get - After all we are as financially entangled here as any other married couple.
I want every single person in society to accept us as a married couple. Just like I am forced to accept their marriages (trust me I can think of several marriages which disgust me and I know are just plain wrong - but I must accept them because they are married.)
I want a nice ceremony, I want a wedding shower, I want a bachelor party, I want a nice church, a priest and flowers and wedding cake (several tiers of course) I want rings I want a ring boy and a flower girl, I want a Best man and a Bride's maid - Even though their would be no "bride".
I want my relationship to be accepted and honored without question, without sneers of contempt, without the barely suppressed disgust, hatred and condemnation and threat of Eternal Flames.
I am a good man, I have earned the respect of my peers, I do little harm in my walk through life. I am a human being bearing with me the same desire to pair off and to become more than one - a union of two as one - Granted its not with a woman, its with a man. I expect the same humanity for my love as any breeder gets for theirs. I expect the same legal considerations for my love as any breeder gets.
I do not care if you and the rest of the "moral majority" don't like it. Y'all can get bent.
11-10-04, 02:06 PM coldfuse A few random thoughts (but what do I know as a sterilized ex-breeder?):
1. David, you last post was among the more heartfelt and impassioned ones I have read at AP. Are the feelings strong enough to give up whatever you have here and move to a country where gay marriage is legal?
2. If you would rather remain a U.S. Citizen and fight for the privilege here, the road appears long and difficult. Though I am no attorney, it seems that the equal protection clause may in fact work against you rather than for you. The flip side of Kendor's last sentence is that heterosexuals are also legally forbidden to marry men (though of course why would they want to?). Sometimes, you just can't do what you want to do even if you don't like the reasoning.
3. I don't know how one goes about fighting for this privilege. Activism seems to repel the majority, and most politicians won't touch the issue of gay marriage with a ten foot pole. Not even the recent more liberal presidential contender. California may continue to be your best bet in the US.
4. Jointly filed income taxes have traditionally involved a marriage penalty, though this situation hs become more equitable under the current administration.
5. If some of us are invited, do I gather that a "Gentleman's Club" is off limits as a venue for the bachelor party?
Best of luck in your quest. You want to get married for many of the same reasons that my wife and I did.
11-10-04, 02:12 PM Kendor David, I do respect you greatly as a human being, but you know my stance on gay marriages.
And whether you know it or not, your last response covered at least 4 of the 6 points in the 'agenda'.
11-10-04, 08:10 PM DvdGStwrt
quote:Originally posted by Kendor: David, I do respect you greatly as a human being, but you know my stance on gay marriages.
Yes and your stance stinks.
11-10-04, 08:18 PM CincyOnTheRoad
quote:As a child, I did allot of hitch hiking in the 50's and was bothered allot by homosexuals.
What's the bigger threat to children? Gay people, or hitch hiking? Confused That's like saying "Last week, I went to Iraq and was bothered allot (sic) by gun-toting fanatics". Roll Eyes
11-10-04, 08:23 PM CincyOnTheRoad
quoteavid, I do respect you greatly as a human being, but you know my stance on gay marriages.
Key word- "my". Funny how conservative rugged individualism can get so damned intrusive into such personal issues.
11-10-04, 08:39 PM Kelleygirl Me thinks that you protest WAY too loudly, Kendor.
11-11-04, 07:20 AM Kendor
quote:Originally posted by CincyOnTheRoad: Key word- "_my_". Funny how conservative rugged individualism can get so damned intrusive into such personal issues.
Cincy, it's only personal until they start screaming in public about unfair treatment, and airing their demands for 'special' rights. It's then when their sexual perversion is thrown in the faces of MY two young sons, (and every other child in the land). To me that is absolutely no different than allowing [consenting] adults to run down the street in the nude.
Kelly, I believe that I am being rather civil about the whole thing, seeing that our [MY] children are the ultimate victims.
11-11-04, 10:12 AM gerry Most children aren't victims of homosexual 'perversion'. They're victims of failed heterosexual marriages, most of which are messed up and which, in turn, mess up the kids as well. If your marriage is one of the few that are happy and compatible, then I praise you and yours and your children thank you for it. Unfortunately, it is seldom so. I have no idea if homosexual marriages will end up with the same stats, but I know it couldn't possibly be any worse.
11-11-04, 10:51 AM edgeview Cincy
It was normal to hitchhike in the mid 50's. I caddied and hitchhiked to and from the club every day. I never had a problem when I was wearing my caddy shirt and hat. And I got there as fast as if I were driving. But in the evening, when I was going to my girlfriend's house, I had trouble. When I was 16 years old and on probation, a policeman on the force was allowed to "big Brother" me. He came on to me in the strongest way. Once I jumped in a car and the man was masturbating. I jumped right out. There was many more experiences. The last time that a man approached me, and was going to pull down his pants, I was 61 Years old. Open your eyes!
EDGEVIEW
11-11-04, 03:14 PM CincyOnTheRoad As has been stated before- that's not typical behavior regarding gays. If I start thinking like you, I guess I could say Ted Bundy is a prime example of aggressive, hormone-pumped hetero men, right?
As far as "opening my eyes", I think my sight's just fine. You seem to have placed yourself in potentially dangerous situations in the past, so if you've had strange encounters, maybe you should look at the settings they occurred in first, before you label an entire group of people. I'm 30 years old, and for the life of me can't recall ever being in a situation like those.
11-12-04, 08:25 AM gerry
quote:Originally posted by edgeview: Cincy
It was normal to hitchhike in the mid 50's. I caddied and hitchhiked to and from the club every day. I never had a problem when I was wearing my caddy shirt and hat. And I got there as fast as if I were driving. But in the evening, when I was going to my girlfriend's house, I had trouble. When I was 16 years old and on probation, a policeman on the force was allowed to "big Brother" me. He came on to me in the strongest way. Once I jumped in a car and the man was masturbating. I jumped right out. There was many more experiences. The last time that a man approached me, and was going to pull down his pants, I was 61 Years old. Open your eyes!
EDGEVIEW
You make a good point. Brittanica defines a pedophile as an adult who is aroused and sexually gratified by sexual contact with a prebuscent child. That would be age 12 or younger for males and 10 or younger for females, more or less. In the case of an adult male 'hitting' on a 16 year old male, I wouldn't call him a pedo, he's either a homo, a bi, or a pervert. Clearly, the hitchikee guy dropping his pants or masturbating is a pervert. Not so clear though with the cop or the male 'botherers', they're probably the bi's or homo's. Hey, when a hetero adult male is sitting at a sidewalk cafe casually 'watching the girls go by', it's not the 45 year old overweight mom he's checking out, trust me, it's the young, trim, well endowed, soft-skinned, scantily clad beauty that he's got his eyes on. It's the nature of the beast. I assume, then, (and it may be an incorrect assumption), that while a homosexual male may prefer a long term relationship with a partner around his own age, that he, too, like the red-blooded hetero, is checking out the younger males during his casual strolls down the beach. I won't ask the question, though, since most would probably deny such an attraction, refusing to admit it (as self-proclaimed hetero-with-homo-bi-tendencies Kendor once eloquently said), "..not even to themselves!"
11-13-04, 01:02 PM DvdGStwrt So what are Gay men looking at on the beach?
There is the Gay community which is composed up of sub cultures which all have their particular style or "fetish".
An example is the Bear and Cub association. No we are not talking Yogi and Booboo here, we are talking about hairy, usually larger than average men. Hairy or very hairy being the key - these you can pretty much forget about having them looking at the smooth bodied slim "boys on the beach". They would no more look at that then they would bare breasted women. Not interested.
Then there are the Muscle Queens, usually "buff" muscle dudes who are into buff muscle dudes they will not look at a thin "boy" simply because they are attracted to muscle.
Then there are those who are into cross dressers, men who like to wear woman's clothing - Another group you can pretty much put aside from looking at the boys on the beach. There are more, many more subgroups.
Most, say 75 to 80 percent of homosexual men are into men older than themselves - not much older mind, but the psychological "security" of a more "mature" man is one of the driving points for gay men. Many gay men are "bottoms" meaning that they are submissive in and out of bed and prefer a more "dominate" older, wiser man to "take care of them" Gay men are looking for Men not boys (usually) because a Man can provide that stability that gay men are looking for.
There are certain signs of maturity that teen agers just do not have, like body hair, more defined muscles. Got to remember that males tend to mature later in life than females. Gay men, like straight women, tend to focus more on the maturity of their prospective partners for pretty much the same reasons.
There is a underlying truth in the gay community that truth is that there are more bottoms than tops. Bottoms are considered a dime a dozen, tops - true tops, are rare and special in the gay community. Thus the majority want to be the "boy" vying for the attention of the "men". Pretty boys are a threat to most gay men they are viewed as being competition for the "men".
Of course that applies to your out and about gays. There is a large population that ain't so out of the closet. Those are the tricky ones.
Married men make up the largest group of in the closet gay. They claim that they are straight yet petition men for sex, go to sex clubs, cruise parks, send in personal ads. They always claim to be "gay curious" seeking a "first time" experience - at least that is the most popular bait for the trap.
When I was younger (and prettier, a mere "boy" in looks) I had a very large number of "straight" men petition me for sexual favors. These are the ones who tend to go for the youngest of the gay herd, targeting the "boys".
The Second group which is dangerous is the "trolls" these are older men (gray, wrinkled, long of tooth) who spent their earlier life in the closet, most often married with children discovering the closet door late in life. They come out on the scene thinking that they are still in their 20's - however they soon learn that the only thing that they really have going for them is their financial security that they can offer.
The problem for these two groups is that out and about gay men learn very early or are cautioned by the community to not do "straight" men and to steer clear of the trolls. They learn that both groups come with baggage and problems. The "Straight" man tends to get all guilty and lashes out at the "gay" for "turning" him that way. Or being "Straight" means he demands that the gay he is with goes back in the closet - trust me few gay men want to go back once they come out.
The "Troll" will get attached and when the money runs out, or he thinks that love is enough for the "relationship" he pulls back the 'gifts' even though he didn't start the relationship on promises of love, but on promises of money it starts to break down rather quickly.
Now there are those who are "boys" into "daddies" - Trolls can be known as Daddies if they stick to the boys that want to be boys - these are again the out and about gay men (older and younger).
The psychology of gay male is very, very complex - it is nothing like the psychology of straight male. Gay males are similar to straight women in their tastes, they are driven by some of the same drives that straight women are geared for, i.e. they are looking for a "dominate provider" something that immature teenage boys do not provide. More than half of the gay males find teenage boys to be lethal competition in the mating circle - meaning that they view youth and beauty to be a threat to their ability to find the "right man". We note that many gay males do the "gay" thing which makes them appear "weaker" and somehow more vulnerable - its to attract the stronger "masculine" males not the teenage boys - it is also a clear signal to the male population that they are openly gay and available.
The myth-understanding of the homosexual male in the straight world is that any swinging- uh, er - you know - will do, thus boys (teenagers) are open season. In reality there are far deeper drives going on which make any male who may be straight unattractive and not worth looking at.
Yes gay males can look at and appreciate the youthful male body - but if you listen carefully you will find that most of us jaded queens have some not so nice things to say about the boys Wink We may envy their youth and good looks, but we would be loath to do anything with them.
David
11-13-04, 10:07 PM gerry David-
Thanks for setting the record 'straight', I stand corrected in my uninformed assumption.
Have you (or are you) ever considered writing a book on this complex subject, or thought of some other way (besides this forum) to enlighten an unlightened public? You communicate the written word clearly, intelligently, and believably. I wish there was someone who could explain heterosexuality equally as well.
11-13-04, 11:27 PM coldfuse Is it a sign that you're getting older when you think some of the moms are hotter than their teenage daughters? Confused
And David, your last post was among the more enlightening I have read here. If not a book, then a guest article for a widely circulating newspaper or magazine might help to open John Q. Public's eyes about a lifestyle that will otherwise remain misunderstood. The "Queen of the Trolls" series... Roll Eyes
11-14-04, 01:14 AM DvdGStwrt Actually there are libraries full of books on the subject. Unfortunately only the already enlightened choose to read them - meaning only those who are actually interested in understanding pay attention at all.
Sad, but this applies to all subjects Frown
11-14-04, 08:05 PM aminator2002 edgeview...
I don't think your problem was homosexual men but just perverted men. I have had male strangers approach me masturbating and I'm a woman. There are some sick men out there... has nothing to do with homosexuality.
Or are you thinking that as a woman it is okay to have that kind of thing happen because the man is a heterosexual?
Open your own eyes.
11-14-04, 10:33 PM edgeview thanks, aminator2002
Never thought of it that way. I'll keep that in mind.
11-14-04, 11:02 PM gerry
quote:Originally posted by DvdGStwrt: When I was younger (and prettier, a mere "boy" in looks) I had a very large number of "straight" men petition me for sexual favors. These are the ones who tend to go for the youngest of the gay herd, targeting the "boys".
David
By "straight", you mean that they claim to be heteros (who presumably are attracted to females), but actually are what?: pedos, bis, perverts, NAMBLAs, etc., or simply heteros attracted to a youthful (pretty, feminine-like) male body? I'm looking for an expert on hetero behavior, I don't know if you're the one, but there don't seem to be anyone else.
11-15-04, 12:21 AM DvdGStwrt
quote:Originally posted by gerry:
quote:Originally posted by DvdGStwrt: When I was younger (and prettier, a mere "boy" in looks) I had a very large number of "straight" men petition me for sexual favors. These are the ones who tend to go for the youngest of the gay herd, targeting the "boys".
David
By "straight", you mean that they claim to be heteros (who presumably are attracted to females), but actually are what?: pedos, bis, perverts, NAMBLAs, etc., or simply heteros attracted to a youthful (pretty, feminine-like) male body? I'm looking for an expert on hetero behavior, I don't know if you're the one, but there don't seem to be anyone else.
By straight I mean that they live in a wonderland where they can have sex with men and still call themselves heterosexual. They are not pesos, bis, perverts, NAMBLAS, they are terribly confused, scared and trying to live the way society expects them too while at the same time they are trying to satisfy that itch. When we live a lie we do strange things.
I suspect that many men who have sexual relations with male minors do so because they are closet queers who feel safer with a minor than with an adult - minors shouldn't tell, won't be as judgmental, etc.
When I said a young boy I meant mid twenties - yes I passed for 16-18, thus I was a pretty boy.
11-15-04, 08:31 AM gerry Genius, pure genius. OK, now I'd like to hear from the females out there (mostly the 'straights'). Does Jennifer Lopez or a Miss Universe turn you on? Does Maddonna's kissing Brit disgust you or excite you? If there were a Soap Opera entitled "The Young and the Lesbians", would you watch it or bust the TV (damn men would bring the TV to work just to see it). Just wondering, now that I've figured out the male psyche (thanks to David), I thirst for more knowledge from the female side. Comments??
11-15-04, 12:42 PM DvdGStwrt
quote:Originally posted by gerry: Genius, pure genius. OK, now I'd like to hear from the females out there (mostly the 'straights'). Does Jennifer Lopez or a Miss Universe turn you on? Does Maddonna's kissing Brit disgust you or excite you? If there were a Soap Opera entitled "The Young and the Lesbians", would you watch it or bust the TV (damn men would bring the TV to work just to see it). Just wondering, now that I've figured out the male psyche (thanks to David), I thirst for more knowledge from the female side. Comments??
I will wager you will find that women are more accepting about lesbians than men are about gay guys. Might not find it all to hot, but are not as put off on the subject - unless, of course, they had a pushy lesbian attempt to force herself on them.
11-15-04, 08:10 PM aminator2002 I am not turned on by lesbian sexual acts. I have no problem with it, but I don't think it's a turn on or anything. I know a lot of men that are turned on by lesbian sex... have no idea why but also don't really care. Men are a mystery. Wink
I think most women are pretty comfortable admiring other women. It's not a matter of sexual desire to compliment a woman for her appearance. I think most women don't have any confusion over the fact that admiring someone's beauty does not have to equal sexual desire.
I have been hit on by lesbians but I have also been hit on by men that I didn't feel any attraction to. I don't see any need to make a big deal about it... it's really about the same thing.
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avid, I do respect you greatly as a human being, but you know my stance on gay marriages.